We beveled our panel ends to make the hexagon snug together tighter with a table saw. It worked great, but made a ton of foam dust.
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Kevin Fischer <[email protected]> wrote: > A guy on the youtube comments suggests a pizza slicer. > https://www.amazon.com/OXO-SteeL-Pizza-Wheel-Cutter/dp/B0000E2GYL I > could see that working really well also. > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM, D.V.Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: > > Best Way to Cut Rigid Insulation Panels - https://youtu.be/KuFWRTEULD0 > > > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Kevin Fischer <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Anyone at American Steel have space they can lend for this? That would > >> work better than my backyard. Also a bandsaw with the right dust > >> vacuuming attachment could be really helpful; I've breathed enough > >> hexayurt dust for a lifetime already. > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:24 AM, hal muskat <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > I might have interest depending on costs . . . > >> > > >> > thank for doing this Kevin. > >> > > >> > AmSteel could have space as well as assembly space??? > >> > > >> > Hal > >> > > >> > On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > This sounds like a great plan. > >> > > >> > V> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Vinay Gupta [email protected] http://re.silience.com > >> > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > >> > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt > >> > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was > >> > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus > >> > > >> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Kevin Fischer <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I asked Ashby Lumber for a quote for XCI 286 so waiting to hear back > >> >> from them. I'm happy to help organize a group buy, but don't have > >> >> warehouse storage space, just unsecure but in practice fine outdoor > >> >> yard space in South Berkeley where I can also host hexayurt build > >> >> sessions. Pretty sure we can get an order for 150 panels together, if > >> >> that's the minimum quantity to get great pricing. > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter > >> >> Project) <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Very helpful note, DV. > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm going to be on the Playa this year. I'm very happy to go in on > a > >> >> > purchase - I think we'd looking at about 32 to 35 panels. > >> >> > > >> >> > V> > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Vinay Gupta [email protected] http://re.silience.com > >> >> > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > >> >> > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt > >> >> > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was > >> >> > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus > >> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:09 PM, D.V.Rogers <[email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I worked with Thermax CI for the DOMUS project which is the same > as > >> >> >> Thermax HD except the external facer is blue instead of white. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> REF: http://domus.urbanaction.org > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thermax CI and HD is designed to be exposed outdoors for 6-12 > months > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> has a great thermal rating and reasonable fire rating. > >> >> >> The increased price difference is because its DOW :( At the time i > >> >> >> was > >> >> >> interested in using Hunter XCI but they didn't wish to > communicate. > >> >> >> Thermax is expensive and difficult to source on the West Coast > but I > >> >> >> used > >> >> >> http://foamsalesandmarketing.com/ in Burbank, C.A. for supply. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Kevin Fischer < > [email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Is Thermax HD believed to be slightly better than Hunter XCI 286? > >> >> >>> To > >> >> >>> explain the increased cost, does it have a thicker layer of glass > >> >> >>> fiber foil that adds strength? Or is it pretty much the same > thing? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Adam Bregenzer < > [email protected]> > >> >> >>> wrote: > >> >> >>> > No problem, we found it at a couple of places, it seems readily > >> >> >>> > available at commercial construction supply stores such as IDI > < > >> >> >>> > http://idi-insulation.com/ > and Allied < > >> >> >>> > http://www.alliedbuilding.com/ >. Both were willing to sell > over > >> >> >>> > the > >> >> >>> > counter and kept the product in stock or within less than a > week > >> >> >>> > delivery, they also were willing to deliver locally. > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter > >> >> >>> > Project) > >> >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> Really good to know about the Hunter XCI. Thank you for > finding > >> >> >>> >> it, > >> >> >>> >> Adam and > >> >> >>> >> Hunter. > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> Could somebody add it to the wiki? Do we have any more > >> >> >>> >> information > >> >> >>> >> on > >> >> >>> >> the > >> >> >>> >> supply chain, how to actually buy the stuff? Who's stocking > it? > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> V> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> -- > >> >> >>> >> Vinay Gupta [email protected] http://re.silience.com > >> >> >>> >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > >> >> >>> >> UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt > >> >> >>> >> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was > >> >> >>> >> in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Adam Bregenzer > >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>> We couldn't find anyone who would sell Thermax HD unless we > >> >> >>> >>> bought > >> >> >>> >>> Dow's > >> >> >>> >>> entire minimum order from them, which is 1,100 sheets. > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>> The good news is we found an alternative panel, Hunter Xci > 286 > >> >> >>> >>> (link > >> >> >>> >>> to > >> >> >>> >>> specs below). It has the same compressive strength and fire > >> >> >>> >>> rating > >> >> >>> >>> as > >> >> >>> >>> Thermax HD and is available in smaller quantities, also it's > >> >> >>> >>> cheaper > >> >> >>> >>> than > >> >> >>> >>> the quoted price for Thermax, but still relatively expensive > at > >> >> >>> >>> ~$33 > >> >> >>> >>> / > >> >> >>> >>> sheet. The foil on both sides is a metal foil. One side is > >> >> >>> >>> highly > >> >> >>> >>> reflective, the other is white. > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>> http://www.hunterxci.com/images/submittal_docs/XCI_286_ > lit.pdf > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:50 AM, "Hunter" <[email protected]> > >> >> >>> >>> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> After months of searching we found out no one in the bay > area > >> >> >>> >>>> will > >> >> >>> >>>> supply > >> >> >>> >>>> you with thermax hd (if you were buying less than 150 > sheets). > >> >> >>> >>>> We > >> >> >>> >>>> went with > >> >> >>> >>>> Hunter xcl (?) which had similar fire properties. > >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:40 AM, "Dan March" < > [email protected]> > >> >> >>> >>>> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> Hey Tim ~ I'm also concerned with safety and look for > >> >> >>> >>>>> materials > >> >> >>> >>>>> that > >> >> >>> >>>>> really do the job well.... and with a safety margin I'm > >> >> >>> >>>>> comfortable > >> >> >>> >>>>> with. > >> >> >>> >>>>> The theoretical fire-related risks in a yurt with > aluminized > >> >> >>> >>>>> interior > >> >> >>> >>>>> surface are scary with the lens effect and other > >> >> >>> >>>>> concentrating > >> >> >>> >>>>> potentials. > >> >> >>> >>>>> Even - or in some hypothetical cases - without the foam > board > >> >> >>> >>>>> itself > >> >> >>> >>>>> catching fire, just having any substantial amount of stuff > >> >> >>> >>>>> burning > >> >> >>> >>>>> in a > >> >> >>> >>>>> heat-concentrating structure can get pretty intense. > >> >> >>> >>>>> Thinking > >> >> >>> >>>>> of > >> >> >>> >>>>> keeping > >> >> >>> >>>>> any flames out of there, myself. I like to cook but might > >> >> >>> >>>>> have > >> >> >>> >>>>> a > >> >> >>> >>>>> separate, > >> >> >>> >>>>> safer place to do it... also experimenting with more > serious > >> >> >>> >>>>> electrical > >> >> >>> >>>>> power and using non-flame cooking stuffs like induction - > >> >> >>> >>>>> which > >> >> >>> >>>>> looks > >> >> >>> >>>>> amazing btw. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> It appears to me that a well-constructed H15 (which, to me, > >> >> >>> >>>>> means > >> >> >>> >>>>> mitered corners - which really improve the integrity of > tape > >> >> >>> >>>>> joints > >> >> >>> >>>>> & > >> >> >>> >>>>> carrying through the structural properties of the skin over > >> >> >>> >>>>> the > >> >> >>> >>>>> foam, and > >> >> >>> >>>>> also means well tied down and weak points like doorways > >> >> >>> >>>>> reinforced) > >> >> >>> >>>>> made => > >> >> >>> >>>>> 1.5" thick board should stand up to an acceptably high > >> >> >>> >>>>> percentage > >> >> >>> >>>>> of > >> >> >>> >>>>> possible weather on the playa. I don't think any weight > >> >> >>> >>>>> difference > >> >> >>> >>>>> is > >> >> >>> >>>>> practically significant. I can lift a whole H15 either way > >> >> >>> >>>>> if > >> >> >>> >>>>> it's > >> >> >>> >>>>> a > >> >> >>> >>>>> package I can handle. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> I'm playing with Hexacomb board. It's quite a bit more > rigid > >> >> >>> >>>>> but > >> >> >>> >>>>> needs > >> >> >>> >>>>> waterproofing and possibly some help with insulation & > >> >> >>> >>>>> reflection. > >> >> >>> >>>>> It's > >> >> >>> >>>>> pretty light and about half the price of HD. Also playing > >> >> >>> >>>>> with > >> >> >>> >>>>> hybrid > >> >> >>> >>>>> systems - board captured by EMT TinkerToy. Hard to price > >> >> >>> >>>>> that > >> >> >>> >>>>> kind > >> >> >>> >>>>> of stuff > >> >> >>> >>>>> though... more of an art statement you live in... > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> Re group buys, Home Depot might special order HD in some > >> >> >>> >>>>> quantity, > >> >> >>> >>>>> but > >> >> >>> >>>>> probably not necessarily a huge amount, so I'm not counting > >> >> >>> >>>>> that > >> >> >>> >>>>> as > >> >> >>> >>>>> much of > >> >> >>> >>>>> a barrier. Costs a bit more but like you say... Either > >> >> >>> >>>>> way, I > >> >> >>> >>>>> can do the > >> >> >>> >>>>> kits and accessories. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> ~ Dan > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Tim <[email protected]> > >> >> >>> >>>>> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>> We'd be interested in a group order as well. > >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm somewhat new to yurt building. I've read most of the > >> >> >>> >>>>>> guides > >> >> >>> >>>>>> but am > >> >> >>> >>>>>> yet to read up on true side-by-side comparisons of each > type > >> >> >>> >>>>>> of > >> >> >>> >>>>>> material for > >> >> >>> >>>>>> playa use. I tend to "buy the best" if that makes sense, > so > >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm > >> >> >>> >>>>>> attracted to > >> >> >>> >>>>>> HD. That said, is it actually that much better on the > playa? > >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm > >> >> >>> >>>>>> also > >> >> >>> >>>>>> curious if it weighs much more, considering structural > >> >> >>> >>>>>> implications for an > >> >> >>> >>>>>> H15. Thanks for any insight. Count us in if this *is* the > >> >> >>> >>>>>> "best" > >> >> >>> >>>>>> option for > >> >> >>> >>>>>> the $$. > >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:00:20 AM UTC-7, BurnerDan wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> Safety is an issue. All campers need to be aware of the > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> risks > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> - > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> especially of fire - in sleeping in many Playa > constructs, > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> but > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> yurts have > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> special dangers because of their materials and tightness. > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> Is there any history of encouraging smoke alarm use and > do > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> any/all > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> such units remain reliable under Playa conditions? > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:06:59 AM UTC-8, Vinay > Gupta > >> >> >>> >>>>>>> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They're tougher. > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They're not that much more expensive. > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They won't catch fire. > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> I feel like this would be a great year to actually fix > the > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> supply > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> chain issues around Thermax HD (or equivalents from > other > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> manufacturers), do > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> a container load bulk purchase, and start moving people > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> off > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> R-MAX etc. until > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> there's a comprehensive solution for the fire risk. I > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> really > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> want to solve > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> this problem before somebody gets hurt. > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_Safety_Information > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Vinay > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> -- > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public > Interest > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - the Gupta State Failure > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Management > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Archive > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Archive.org > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> sheltering > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big > picture > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> vision > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> "In the midst of winter, I finally 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