My table saw has a hookup for a dust collection vacuum system, but if you're looking to hugely decrease dust created by your saw, you might want to look at this tool design:
http://www.blademfg.com/products/circular-knives/ On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Chris Jurney <[email protected]> wrote: > We beveled our panel ends to make the hexagon snug together tighter with a > table saw. It worked great, but made a ton of foam dust. > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Kevin Fischer <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> A guy on the youtube comments suggests a pizza slicer. >> https://www.amazon.com/OXO-SteeL-Pizza-Wheel-Cutter/dp/B0000E2GYL I >> could see that working really well also. >> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM, D.V.Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Best Way to Cut Rigid Insulation Panels - https://youtu.be/KuFWRTEULD0 >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Kevin Fischer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Anyone at American Steel have space they can lend for this? That would >> >> work better than my backyard. Also a bandsaw with the right dust >> >> vacuuming attachment could be really helpful; I've breathed enough >> >> hexayurt dust for a lifetime already. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:24 AM, hal muskat <[email protected] >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> > I might have interest depending on costs . . . >> >> > >> >> > thank for doing this Kevin. >> >> > >> >> > AmSteel could have space as well as assembly space??? >> >> > >> >> > Hal >> >> > >> >> > On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > This sounds like a great plan. >> >> > >> >> > V> >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Vinay Gupta [email protected] http://re.silience.com >> >> > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt >> >> > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was >> >> > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Kevin Fischer <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I asked Ashby Lumber for a quote for XCI 286 so waiting to hear back >> >> >> from them. I'm happy to help organize a group buy, but don't have >> >> >> warehouse storage space, just unsecure but in practice fine outdoor >> >> >> yard space in South Berkeley where I can also host hexayurt build >> >> >> sessions. Pretty sure we can get an order for 150 panels together, >> if >> >> >> that's the minimum quantity to get great pricing. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter >> >> >> Project) <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Very helpful note, DV. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'm going to be on the Playa this year. I'm very happy to go in >> on a >> >> >> > purchase - I think we'd looking at about 32 to 35 panels. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > V> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Vinay Gupta [email protected] http://re.silience.com >> >> >> > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> >> > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt >> >> >> > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was >> >> >> > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:09 PM, D.V.Rogers <[email protected]> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I worked with Thermax CI for the DOMUS project which is the same >> as >> >> >> >> Thermax HD except the external facer is blue instead of white. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> REF: http://domus.urbanaction.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thermax CI and HD is designed to be exposed outdoors for 6-12 >> months >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> has a great thermal rating and reasonable fire rating. >> >> >> >> The increased price difference is because its DOW :( At the time >> i >> >> >> >> was >> >> >> >> interested in using Hunter XCI but they didn't wish to >> communicate. >> >> >> >> Thermax is expensive and difficult to source on the West Coast >> but I >> >> >> >> used >> >> >> >> http://foamsalesandmarketing.com/ in Burbank, C.A. for supply. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Kevin Fischer < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Is Thermax HD believed to be slightly better than Hunter XCI >> 286? >> >> >> >>> To >> >> >> >>> explain the increased cost, does it have a thicker layer of >> glass >> >> >> >>> fiber foil that adds strength? Or is it pretty much the same >> thing? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Adam Bregenzer < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> > No problem, we found it at a couple of places, it seems >> readily >> >> >> >>> > available at commercial construction supply stores such as >> IDI < >> >> >> >>> > http://idi-insulation.com/ > and Allied < >> >> >> >>> > http://www.alliedbuilding.com/ >. Both were willing to sell >> over >> >> >> >>> > the >> >> >> >>> > counter and kept the product in stock or within less than a >> week >> >> >> >>> > delivery, they also were willing to deliver locally. >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter >> >> >> >>> > Project) >> >> >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Really good to know about the Hunter XCI. Thank you for >> finding >> >> >> >>> >> it, >> >> >> >>> >> Adam and >> >> >> >>> >> Hunter. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Could somebody add it to the wiki? Do we have any more >> >> >> >>> >> information >> >> >> >>> >> on >> >> >> >>> >> the >> >> >> >>> >> supply chain, how to actually buy the stuff? Who's stocking >> it? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> V> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >> >> >>> >> Vinay Gupta [email protected] http://re.silience.com >> >> >> >>> >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> >> >>> >> UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt >> >> >> >>> >> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was >> >> >> >>> >> in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Adam Bregenzer >> >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> We couldn't find anyone who would sell Thermax HD unless we >> >> >> >>> >>> bought >> >> >> >>> >>> Dow's >> >> >> >>> >>> entire minimum order from them, which is 1,100 sheets. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> The good news is we found an alternative panel, Hunter Xci >> 286 >> >> >> >>> >>> (link >> >> >> >>> >>> to >> >> >> >>> >>> specs below). It has the same compressive strength and fire >> >> >> >>> >>> rating >> >> >> >>> >>> as >> >> >> >>> >>> Thermax HD and is available in smaller quantities, also it's >> >> >> >>> >>> cheaper >> >> >> >>> >>> than >> >> >> >>> >>> the quoted price for Thermax, but still relatively >> expensive at >> >> >> >>> >>> ~$33 >> >> >> >>> >>> / >> >> >> >>> >>> sheet. The foil on both sides is a metal foil. One side is >> >> >> >>> >>> highly >> >> >> >>> >>> reflective, the other is white. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> http://www.hunterxci.com/images/submittal_docs/XCI_286_lit. >> pdf >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:50 AM, "Hunter" <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> After months of searching we found out no one in the bay >> area >> >> >> >>> >>>> will >> >> >> >>> >>>> supply >> >> >> >>> >>>> you with thermax hd (if you were buying less than 150 >> sheets). >> >> >> >>> >>>> We >> >> >> >>> >>>> went with >> >> >> >>> >>>> Hunter xcl (?) which had similar fire properties. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:40 AM, "Dan March" < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>> >>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Hey Tim ~ I'm also concerned with safety and look for >> >> >> >>> >>>>> materials >> >> >> >>> >>>>> that >> >> >> >>> >>>>> really do the job well.... and with a safety margin I'm >> >> >> >>> >>>>> comfortable >> >> >> >>> >>>>> with. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> The theoretical fire-related risks in a yurt with >> aluminized >> >> >> >>> >>>>> interior >> >> >> >>> >>>>> surface are scary with the lens effect and other >> >> >> >>> >>>>> concentrating >> >> >> >>> >>>>> potentials. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Even - or in some hypothetical cases - without the foam >> board >> >> >> >>> >>>>> itself >> >> >> >>> >>>>> catching fire, just having any substantial amount of stuff >> >> >> >>> >>>>> burning >> >> >> >>> >>>>> in a >> >> >> >>> >>>>> heat-concentrating structure can get pretty intense. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Thinking >> >> >> >>> >>>>> of >> >> >> >>> >>>>> keeping >> >> >> >>> >>>>> any flames out of there, myself. I like to cook but might >> >> >> >>> >>>>> have >> >> >> >>> >>>>> a >> >> >> >>> >>>>> separate, >> >> >> >>> >>>>> safer place to do it... also experimenting with more >> serious >> >> >> >>> >>>>> electrical >> >> >> >>> >>>>> power and using non-flame cooking stuffs like induction - >> >> >> >>> >>>>> which >> >> >> >>> >>>>> looks >> >> >> >>> >>>>> amazing btw. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> It appears to me that a well-constructed H15 (which, to >> me, >> >> >> >>> >>>>> means >> >> >> >>> >>>>> mitered corners - which really improve the integrity of >> tape >> >> >> >>> >>>>> joints >> >> >> >>> >>>>> & >> >> >> >>> >>>>> carrying through the structural properties of the skin >> over >> >> >> >>> >>>>> the >> >> >> >>> >>>>> foam, and >> >> >> >>> >>>>> also means well tied down and weak points like doorways >> >> >> >>> >>>>> reinforced) >> >> >> >>> >>>>> made => >> >> >> >>> >>>>> 1.5" thick board should stand up to an acceptably high >> >> >> >>> >>>>> percentage >> >> >> >>> >>>>> of >> >> >> >>> >>>>> possible weather on the playa. I don't think any weight >> >> >> >>> >>>>> difference >> >> >> >>> >>>>> is >> >> >> >>> >>>>> practically significant. I can lift a whole H15 either >> way >> >> >> >>> >>>>> if >> >> >> >>> >>>>> it's >> >> >> >>> >>>>> a >> >> >> >>> >>>>> package I can handle. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> I'm playing with Hexacomb board. It's quite a bit more >> rigid >> >> >> >>> >>>>> but >> >> >> >>> >>>>> needs >> >> >> >>> >>>>> waterproofing and possibly some help with insulation & >> >> >> >>> >>>>> reflection. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> It's >> >> >> >>> >>>>> pretty light and about half the price of HD. Also playing >> >> >> >>> >>>>> with >> >> >> >>> >>>>> hybrid >> >> >> >>> >>>>> systems - board captured by EMT TinkerToy. Hard to price >> >> >> >>> >>>>> that >> >> >> >>> >>>>> kind >> >> >> >>> >>>>> of stuff >> >> >> >>> >>>>> though... more of an art statement you live in... >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Re group buys, Home Depot might special order HD in some >> >> >> >>> >>>>> quantity, >> >> >> >>> >>>>> but >> >> >> >>> >>>>> probably not necessarily a huge amount, so I'm not >> counting >> >> >> >>> >>>>> that >> >> >> >>> >>>>> as >> >> >> >>> >>>>> much of >> >> >> >>> >>>>> a barrier. Costs a bit more but like you say... Either >> >> >> >>> >>>>> way, I >> >> >> >>> >>>>> can do the >> >> >> >>> >>>>> kits and accessories. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> ~ Dan >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Tim <[email protected] >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> We'd be interested in a group order as well. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm somewhat new to yurt building. I've read most of the >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> guides >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> but am >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> yet to read up on true side-by-side comparisons of each >> type >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> of >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> material for >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> playa use. I tend to "buy the best" if that makes sense, >> so >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> attracted to >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> HD. That said, is it actually that much better on the >> playa? >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> also >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> curious if it weighs much more, considering structural >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> implications for an >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> H15. Thanks for any insight. Count us in if this *is* the >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> "best" >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> option for >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> the $$. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:00:20 AM UTC-7, BurnerDan wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> Safety is an issue. All campers need to be aware of the >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> risks >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> - >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> especially of fire - in sleeping in many Playa >> constructs, >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> but >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> yurts have >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> special dangers because of their materials and >> tightness. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> Is there any history of encouraging smoke alarm use and >> do >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> any/all >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> such units remain reliable under Playa conditions? >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:06:59 AM UTC-8, Vinay >> Gupta >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They're tougher. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They're not that much more expensive. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They won't catch fire. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> I feel like this would be a great year to actually fix >> the >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> supply >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> chain issues around Thermax HD (or equivalents from >> other >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> manufacturers), do >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> a container load bulk purchase, and start moving people >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> off >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> R-MAX etc. until >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> there's a comprehensive solution for the fire risk. I >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> really >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> want to solve >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> this problem before somebody gets hurt. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_Safety_Information >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Vinay >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> -- >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public >> Interest >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - the Gupta State Failure >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Management >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Archive >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Archive.org >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> sheltering >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big >> picture >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> vision >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> "In the 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