Ken,

There are a lot of products under the Liquid Nails brand. Could you post a
picture or an Amazon link to the one you used?

Thanks,
Steve

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:51 AM ken winston caine <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Posted this also under "The Story of My Liquid Nails Fail." But is
> relevant here as well.
>
> REVISION: LIQUID NAILS SUCCESS
>
> NEW TEST: Liquid Nails vs. Epoxy
>
> -1- Liquid Nails, spread thinly with putty knife, on smooth flat
> beveled-cut surface, with some tiny holes scratched into both facing
> surfaces with a wallpaper scouring tool, then clamped and cured for 24
> hours, works BEAUTIFULLY! Incredible strength. And Liquid Nails *claims*
> its repairs will outlast the life of the original material. Am going to
> trust that it will last for my purposes.
>
> -2- Epoxy, surfaces prepared the same way as above and spread evenly over
> entire face, simply did not dig in to anything but the utter topmost layer
> of polyiso fuzz. And the adhered parts easily snapped apart after 24 hours
> cure time. When snapped apart, I observed the epoxy "bond" covered with
> maybe 1/100 inch of polyiso fuzz. Is possible that if I had punched a lot
> of tiny 1/2" deep holes in each face and smeared on the epoxy much thicker
> to fill those punched holes, that I would have gotten a stronger bond. But,
> given the positive results with the Liquid Nails, once spread with a putty
> knife, and its *substantially* lower cost, I am not going to do any further
> testing with epoxy resin at this time. Also is possible that epoxy would
> work with NEW polyiso boards. Mine are salvaged boards, possibly 20 or more
> years old. (They do age, outgas, lose R-Factor over time. And maybe mine
> are fuzzier along my cuts than new boards would be. I don't know.)
>
> So ... I am going with the much less expensive Liquid Nails for my project.
>
> That means I must create some 30-degree-angle braces (out of 2x4s?) that I
> can clamp onto roof-cone sections as I glue them to hold the adhered parts
> together tightly for the 24 hours cure time. And created 30-degree-angle
> braces for the wall sections.
>
>
> As an additional measure, am going to use an awl to punch a dozen or more
> 1/4" deep random holes along each face to be adhered to allow for much
> greater material penetration in those spot, expecting that will make for a
> stronger, more durable bond once cured.
>
> Also, am going to test using rubbing alcohol or acetone on a cloth to
> lightly rub the surfaces to be joined to see if that will help clean away
> dusty fuzz. (Or whether it melts the polyiso.)
>
> Additional observations regarding my earlier Liquid Nails fail:
>
> Because I was attempting to reattach two broken pieces with very uneven
> faces, I was not able to smoothly smear Liquid Nails on the broken faces.
> But on smooth-cut bevels, it smears easily, evenly, with a putty knife
> despite its vicosity. In this latest test, I applied it to only one of the
> two surfaces to be joined. I don't recall for sure, but think I might have
> applied it to both surfaces of the broken pieces in the test that failed.
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 2:54:31 PM UTC-6, ken winston caine wrote:
>>
>> Fail was my fault.
>>
>> 1. I didn't clamp the boards after gluing.
>> 2. I thought a 70 lb. pallet would be adequate to keep a wind gust from
>> causing a problem during overnight cure.
>> 3. I had assumed the Liquid Nails compound would be less viscous and more
>> grabby and  that I could spread/smear it over the entire surface of each
>> face to join. Not possible. Instructions say to apply in a zig-zag design,
>> so that is what I tried. <snip>
>>
>>
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