OH I totally wasn't understanding that until I saw the CAD model - I didn't see how the doorway worked.
That's great! That would be incredibly useful because doors are hard, and being able to prefab a 4x8 door unit and just drop it into the design would be great. Nice work! V> -- *Vinay Gupta * * hexay...@gmail.com <hexay...@gmail.com> * *http://re.silience.com* <http://re.silience.com> *Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest* UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Bob Hearn <bob.he...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks. However, maybe it's a pipe dream, but I want to be able to set it > up and break it down solo. > > I solved for the dimensional parameters of this "5-1/2 yurt" in > Mathematica (the back-wall angle, 112.4°, determines the rest of the > geometry), and modeled it in Rhino, to figure out area, volume, etc. Here's > a 5'11" guy next to it. > > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XvO9NYhcGFk/WbHRJ0Q1HrI/AAAAAAAABIo/XGWXReLupAUn1bpPT2e5ft7jvKpRRn_aQCLcBGAs/s1600/h5.5.png> > > > Here's all the info, compared to other popular designs: > > > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y7_qiM2txzU/WbHRSa1ROLI/AAAAAAAABIs/A21_M9IJSLoHOWyelPJllY0xZxQ_C_OwACLcBGAs/s1600/h5.5-table.png> > > > > My collaborator here, Greg, has this to say: > > > "In the H12, the rope loop and guys pull the roof together and down > against the walls, and also pull the (tops of the) walls in towards the > middle. It's a pretty secure arrangement and the net force is straight down. > > In the new design, I don't see a way to neatly pull all of the pieces > together and end up with a net force straight down... but it may not be a > problem in practice, especially if the panels are attached securely and the > structure starts out relatively stiff. > > I'm mostly worried about where the roof attaches to the top of the door > panel and where the vertical "roof" triangles are stacked on top of the > walls on either side of the door. In the worst case, if the door panel ends > up carrying some weird loads that it can't handle, it could be reinforced > with plywood (as you suggested)." > > > But then, those vertical triangles stacked on top of walls also exist on > the H13, which by now must be considered pretty battle-tested? > > Bob > > > > > On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:25:47 AM UTC-7, Hunter King wrote: >> >> Velcro has been good to us. ~10 mins setup time. You need one tall person >> inside for teardown and two people outside. >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Bob Hearn <bob....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I just got back from Burning Man 2017, using an H12 I bought from Reno >>> Hexayurt. I was pretty happy with it (especially when attached to my large >>> swamp cooler), but a campmate (also bought Reno H12) and I are wondering >>> how best to (1) increase the door height, and (2) speed up set up / break >>> down, ideally allowing single-person assembly. I guess an H13 would be the >>> default choice for a taller door, but... >>> >>> I've been playing with cardboard models, and came up with this, which I >>> haven't seen anywhere else: >>> >>> >>> >>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AXBmIP330Jk/Wa9Iz8VsSxI/AAAAAAAABH4/D_YSoKDo_S0E1vKLX04ltoNaRaNRh6R-wCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_1429.JPG> >>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW2NVcRT9tI/Wa9I6t2IQvI/AAAAAAAABH8/8tw3MCmUzsExBrgNAt0ZxUsLqAc6WcttACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_1430.JPG> >>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mrAFfSdw-cw/Wa9JBnIWkMI/AAAAAAAABIA/euZcHLAANmQ5dSxUHFNmKhqkfMmV4msbgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_1431.JPG> >>> >>> It's kind of a 5-1/2 yurt, I guess, made from 13 panels: five ordinary >>> walls, one vertical panel for the door, roof made from six panels, plus the >>> top piece which is an odd shape (4-8-8 isoceles). >>> >>> One cool thing is that the roof (apart from the top piece) can fold as a >>> single permanently hinged unit, rather than the two needed for an H12: >>> >>> >>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FHtB0xx_DEI/Wa9KAzGGZjI/AAAAAAAABII/B3RoEjwFGlU_QX5KwdaeJok6NnVNznwwQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_1435.JPG> >>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H0nqnGtsYXI/Wa9KHDdYeSI/AAAAAAAABIM/PnweExqevYUvGJPcfjUivb_6eVcG9vm5QCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_1433.JPG> >>> >>> >>> So that's an idea for a taller door, slightly less sf than the H12 >>> (which is more than big enough for me and my wife), and a lot more head >>> room. But, I am worried about stability. Anyone have any thoughts there? >>> >>> As for quicker assembly, we've been thinking zippers, velcro, rods >>> threaded through eyelets, bungie balls, cable ties... I see some good >>> discussion in this forum on velcro. But that would seem to still have one >>> of the disadvantages of taping the non-permanent hinges, namely >>> reachability for the roof section. Zippers you can work from a long pole. >>> Of course for all of these you also have the waterproofing issue. >>> >>> It's a long time to BM 2018, I know, but this is what's in my head now; >>> might as well work on it! >>> >>> Any input would be appreciated; thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to hexayurt+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to hexa...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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