I've been working on turning my H12 into a 5-1/2 yurt (see "Has anyone built a yurt like this?" thread), and I'm beveling the edges. And planning on using velcro for the temporary seams.
Some friends were over helping me this morning, and the question arose, is it feasible to apply the velcro directly to the beveled edges (after taping), so they mate directly, rather than taping to the wall surfaces, in which case a skirt is needed on one side? My first reaction was that would sacrifice too much strength, but after thinking some more, I'm not so sure. Wondering whether to cancel the order for 8 rolls of 15' x 2" velcro that I just placed! Opinions? On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 4:03:35 PM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) wrote: > > Sadly, I managed to buy velcro that didn't have its own adhesive, hence my > confusion. Using the bifi for the other face makes sense, assuming it's > covered in Aluminum tape. In retrospect, I have to concede that the Cordura > was overkill. > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM Bob Hearn <bob....@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Maybe I misinterpreted your comment. It seems to me: >> >> You have two pieces to each velcro edge. One (say loops) you can stick >> directly on the polyiso with its own adhesive -- or are you suggesting an >> external adhesive is needed here too? The problem I experienced is, if >> you're not careful it will pull the aluminum right off the board when you >> try to pull the velcro apart. The velcro's own adhesive seems plenty strong >> to adhere to the aluminum coating. But then I've only tested it over a >> week... >> >> The other side of the velcro (hooks) must be extended somehow from the >> adjoining polyiso piece. That's what you use cordura and barge cement for, >> right? I was just asking why not just use bifi and aluminum tape for this. >> I've seen reports of yurts where the permanent bifi hinges have held up for >> years. And if they fail, they are easy enough to repair onsite with more >> tape. >> >> >> >> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 11:50:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) >> wrote: >> >>> Hmm, not sure I'm getting the picture. If there's velcro on the sticky >>> side of the bifi, don't you still need to attach the other side of the >>> velcro to the polyiso? >>> >>> But even if that improves the attachment scenario, I wouldn't trust bifi >>> to hold up over years. The dry desert is pretty hard on it, even if it's >>> covered. I attached my velcro to Barge-cemented Cordura. >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:45 AM Bob Hearn <bob....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps a stupid question, but what is wrong with just using 6" >>>> bifilament tape, 4" on the polyiso, 2" extending out with the velcro >>>> attached to it, and covering the bifi with aluminum tape? All those things >>>> are already in our toolkit with no need for gluing. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:42:46 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill >>>> (Swifty) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, I like the velcro solution a lot (I had essentially zero tape >>>>> usage this year). But Barge Cement was not a magic-bullet solution to >>>>> gluing it down. Do we have a definitive adhesive for attaching to the >>>>> foil? >>>>> That seems to me the major weakness of this whole hexayurt scenario. >>>>> Should >>>>> be possible though, right, since bifi does such a good job adhering?... >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:29 AM Bob Hearn <bob....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ah, thanks for that insight. I'm leaning towards velcroing mine. But >>>>>> this year I had velcro straps for securing my swamp cooler to the yurt, >>>>>> and >>>>>> yes, I tore off some aluminum breaking it down. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:19:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Upstill >>>>>> (Swifty) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Be careful with that industrial-strength Velcro. It's not >>>>>>> necessarily the case that stronger is better, since its internal bond >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> easily be stronger than whatever you use to glue it down to the >>>>>>> polyiso. I >>>>>>> still struggle with the ends of mine coming unglued from the panel on >>>>>>> teardown, to say nothing of its grabbiness as a stumbling block when >>>>>>> stacking/unstacking panels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got a truncated-pyramid "Aztec" yurt, not a hexi, but I wish >>>>>>> there was Velcro that was a little less enthusiastic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM Jeremy Shaw <jer...@n-heptane.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> I beveled mine (the hard way). Totally worth it. Makes the whole >>>>>>>> thing fit together nicely. I can ratchet strap it down nice and tight >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it is very solid. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can also save time on the playa by using 2" Wide Industrial >>>>>>>> Strength Velcro Tape. Then when you get to the playa you just velco >>>>>>>> everything together, and at the end you undo the velcro and pack it >>>>>>>> up. No >>>>>>>> waste and faster setup and breakdown. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - jeremy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:37 PM, rymar <ryanma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't come across an easy way to bevel edges of yurt but on 1" >>>>>>>>> thickness panels does it make a difference? I would like to get as >>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>> taping done before I get to the playa and am wondering if I should >>>>>>>>> bevel or >>>>>>>>> not. 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