/me has a feeling another OS flame-war is coming up... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avatar-X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] WON is really down?
> -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > heehee, just the way you wrote the message tells me you are clueless > > i mean, you know what you're doing on a broad, consumer level, like most > people > > but you have no clue as to the hidden workings of anything > > let me state some facts for you that i have personally observed > and for the record, the "mac" i refer to is a brand new dual-1ghz mac > with 1.5 gb of ram and all the bells ans whistles, and the PC is a p3 > 866 with 768mb of ram with a lower-end video card: > > -my PC runs any Flash about 10x faster than the mac (based on framerates > and ability to draw things) than the mac does, be they games, > animations, or just graphic-intensive things > > -my PC runs things like Photoshop faster than the MAC... considering > macs are all about the graphics, this was surprising > > -my PC has absolutly no problems printing to the various network > printers in our office, none of the os-x machines can do it well (they > either dont work at all of work very badly), but the os-9 machines can > do it fine > > -every piece of software ever made generally works better on the PC than > on the mac. internet explorer is miles better on the PC, it's total shit > on the mac. there are no good programming tools on the mac. there are no > good GAMES on the mac. > > -don't harp about virtual PC, i've tried it. the mac mentioned above can > run windows 2000 in virtual PC... and it runs about as good as a pentium > 200 can run windows 2000. > > anyways the basic points: the PC is cheaper, faster, more expandable, > supports more stuff, has many choices for hardware and software > manufactures, and has many choices for OS manufactures. apple only gives > you one choice: apple. > > my boss is a total mac-man, and i agree that macs are fine for people > with brain diseases. not for me. > > -av > > sol.greyfox wrote: > > >LOL... you may have several Macs but you apparently have absolutely no clue > >how to use them, because if you truly did you would be joining the Mac > >revolution. I have had OS X for almost 2 years on all my macs here - not a > >SINGLE ONE of them has crashed (no, I am not lying) since having bought > >them. None. Period. Finito. Plus, your argument of not being able to do > >anything is absolutely bullshit. 80% of all *good* commercial software > >(including, but not limited to Adobe, Macromedia, Microsoft (ahem - but I > >must give them credit for Office v.X, it beats every other version of Office > >from Mac to Windows by fourfold), Autodesk, Corel, Kinetix, the list goes > >on. And besides, even if you do come across the stray piece that doesn't > >come with a Mac version, you boot up the old Virtual PC and you run Windows > >XP Professional edition (or Win2k/98, whatever you want) flawlessly and run > >that Windows program - ALL on your Mac. If you have any sort of job that > >requires any computer interaction, I am surprised that you have lived > >without using Macs to their full potential (although no one has done this, > >really). So next time you want to flame someone/something - have some proof > >and some experience first. I don't subscribe to this list to listen to > >people make up shit about something that's good just so they look like they > >know something (which they very apparently don't). > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Avatar-X > >Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:36 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [hlcoders] WON is really down? > > > > > >-- > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >haha, you switched to apple > > > >you must enjoy not being able to do anything with it :) and dont tell me > >im wrong, i have several macs at the office running the latest os-x, > >they cause me so many headaches cause all the mac software is so badly > >written... it's ridiculous. > > > >-av > > > >Aaron Kalin wrote: > > > > > > > >>Makes me happy I bought my Mac and am switching to an all MAC network, > >>better OS and hardware. Can't beat it =) > >> > >>The Palladium is public by Microsoft however MS employees decided it would > >>be fun to release other details such as the "trusted code" part which means > >>microsoft checks anythign and everything before its runtime, this infact > >>won't be practical and no Intel nor AMD will go with it because Intel has > >>already slapped their sales of their pentium 4's by stciking with Rambus. > >>Going with a (illegal) software/hardware standard will be the final step in > >>destroying their company. Yes I said illegal because it is as that project > >>tramples upon every privacy rights and MS knows all too well about > >>anti-trust laws *wink* which are directly violated with non-commercial > >>developers. > >> > >>As they MS exec said, its a drawing board project and its already under > >>federal investigation by the DOJ so its only a matter of time before this > >> > >> > >is > > > > > >>amended to yet another indictment of MS employees. I personally am glad I > >>went to Apple, much better product and ive had no problems since. Don't > >>bash apple until you've actually tried their products too. =p > >> > >>Anyway, I want to hear form Eric Smith on the WON situation as its only > >>rumors right now unless there is an official press release on this matter. > >>The temporary fix works but im curious to know why it caused such a > >>comotion. > >> > >>-iggy > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Philip (Fiber)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:56 PM > >>Subject: RE: [hlcoders] WON is really down? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>And getting MS executives to talk like that it pretty good (I wish I had > >>>those skillz). Also, Intel already has plans for their CPU's (AMD is > >>>next, DAMN!!!!) > >>> > >>>_________________________ > >>>Why do ducks have webbed feet? To stamp out fires. Why do elephants have > >>>flat feet? To stamp out burning ducks. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of botman > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:29 AM > >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] WON is really down? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Palladium is actually a hoax, quite brilliantly concocted by some > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>linux > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>nit-wits I guess. Microsoft doing such a project would be immediate > >>>>>grounds for a federal investigation as that kind of software/chip > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>would > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>be > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>trampling over constitutional rights. This would ruin the company, > >>>>>period. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Those "linux nit-wits" must be pretty intelligent nit-wits to actually > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>get > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Microsoft to create a web page about a product that they are offering > >>>>that's > >>>>actually a hoax... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/Features/2002/Jul02/07-01palladium.as > >>>p > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>:) > >>>> > >>>>Jeffrey "botman" Broome > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>please visit: > >>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>please visit: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > >> > >please visit: > > > > > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >-- > >--------- > >[DRP]Avatar-X > >SillyZone Homepage: www.thesillyzone.com > >SillyZone Forums: forum.thesillyzone.com > >My Homepage: www.cyberwyre.com > > > >-- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------- > [DRP]Avatar-X > SillyZone Homepage: www.thesillyzone.com > SillyZone Forums: forum.thesillyzone.com > My Homepage: www.cyberwyre.com > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
