-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yup, make it more like Coding 4 Fun. Starter Kits for the Msft DNA coders are kicking it right now.This is an idea we've been tossing around, and will put into practice "soon".
> > I second this whole thing, i'll help documenting some stuff> > Maybe it > > will increase the sharing of ideas/code with the sdk -- i.e.> people not > > keeping everything to themselves.> > Adam Maras (memzero) wrote:> > My > > thinking is that we'll have more people interested in modding if they> > > > see that the Orange Box SDK is out and has decent documentation.> >> > // > > Adam Maras (memzero)> >> > Paul Peloski wrote:> >> --> >> [ Picked > > text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> >> I'd help in a community effort > > to clean up and document SDK code. It> >> would> >> have to be in the form > > of a patch, since it's illegal to redistribute> >> the> >> actual SDK. The > > only problem is that it's a little late to start on an> >> effort like > > that, considering most HL2 mods are already started since> >> the> >> SDK > > has been out for quite a while.> >>> >> Regards,> >>> >> Paul> >>> >> On > > Dec 28, 2007 4:38 PM, Jed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>> >>> >>> Where > > Doxygen is most useful is when the actual code itself is> >>> commented in > > a way that makes documenting easier and theres where> >>> we're stuck. Im > > not sure what convention Valve uses but Doxygen> >>> doesn't like it.> >>>> > > >>> To be honest, the most benefitial thing to do would be to go through> > > >>> the entire code base and comment/note properly everything in the> >>> > > source then running Doxygen is just a trivial process. Of course thats> >>> > > time consuming and would need a major shift of practice from Valve.> >>>> > > >>> - Jed> >>>> >>> On 28/12/2007, Tom Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >>>> >>>> There is an option within Doxygen to include the whole source > > tree,> >>>> just> >>>> certain sections (For documented classes/functions), > > or none at all.> >>>>> >>>> I'm guessing we wouldn't use the first one, > > maybe the second or third.> >>>>> >>>> Adam Maras (memzero) wrote:> >>>>> > > >>>>> You have no idea how happy I am to hear that :D> >>>>>> >>>>> That > > being said, was there ever really a _proper_ documentation site> >>>>> > > written for the SDK? The only reason I'm not saying we should do it> >>>>>> > > >>> now> >>>> >>>>> is because the Orange Box code is on the verge of > > release... it would> >>>>>> >>> be> >>>> >>>>> foolish to start documenting > > only to find changed.> >>>>>> >>>>> // Adam Maras (memzero)> >>>>>> >>>>> > > Garry Newman wrote:> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think that much has changed > > internally to warrant this burst> >>>>>> of action. It's just really the > > same code, cleaned up, with> >>>>>> new/changed bits. A conversion guide > > would probably be good though.> >>>>>> Although I think there's only really > > about 5 major things that you'd> >>>>>> need to change in your code.> > > >>>>>>> >>>>>> garry> >>>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 28, 2007 7:00 PM, Adam Maras > > (memzero)> >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > That's another reason a manual writeup might be a good idea. We> >>>>>>>> > > >>> don't> >>>> >>>>>>> have to post the source tree, just class > > definitions and such.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> // Adam Maras (memzero)> >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jed wrote:> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Theres already a > > hundred odd sites with Doxygen dumps of the HL2> >>>>>>>>> >>> SDK.> >>>> > > >>>>>>>> That said, putting the code through Doxygen not only documents it> > > >>>>>>>>> >>> but> >>>> >>>>>>>> will also give access to the entire source > > tree. Considering that> >>>>>>>>> >>> you> >>>> >>>>>>>> have to buy a > > Source game to get access to the SDK, this kind> >>>>>>>>> >>> bypasses> > > >>>> >>>>>>>> it.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Jed> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On > > 28/12/2007, Tom Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could VALVe possibly host a Doxygen'd site for us of > > the SDK> >>>>>>>>> code?> >>>>>>>>> Then> >>>>>>>>> we can link to it from > > the WIKI.> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tobias Kammersgaard wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from > > multipart/alternative ]> >>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea! A Doxygen setup > > perhaps :-)?> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /ProZak> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 28/12/2007, Adam Maras (memzero) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As Mike Durand said, > > it doesn't look likely that the SDK code> >>>>>>>>>>> for the> >>>>>>>>>>> > > Orange Box is going to be out by the end of the month. That> >>>>>>>>>>> > > being said,> >>>>>>>>>>> we have some time to get ready for it! I'm > > proposing that once> >>>>>>>>>>> the code> >>>>>>>>>>> is release, myself > > and some of you people out there in> >>>>>>>>>>> coderland> >>>>>>>>>>> > > get> >>>>>>>>>>> together to discuss documenting the code. By documenting, > > of> >>>>>>>>>>> course, I'm> >>>>>>>>>>> talking about making some HTML or > > wiki pages with things like> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> class> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > definitions, function purposes, inheritance diagrams, etc...;> >>>>>>>>>>> > > all the> >>>>>>>>>>> stuff that a commercial project would have documented. > > This> >>>>>>>>>>> way,> >>>>>>>>>>> there> >>>>>>>>>>> might be more people > > interested in Source modding, since> >>>>>>>>>>> there's> >>>>>>>>>>> more> > > >>>>>>>>>>> documentation around. I'll say this-- the Source source scares> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> me a> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> little bit! Probably just because I > > don't have enough docs on> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> it.> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone > > interested?> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> // Adam Maras (memzero)> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________> >>>>>>>>>>> To > > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> >>>>>>>>>>> > > archives,> >>>>>>>>>>> please visit:> >>>>>>>>>>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > --> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________> > > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> > > >>>>>>>>>> archives, please visit:> >>>>>>>>>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list> >>>>>>>>> archives, please > > visit:> >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list> >>>>>>>> archives, please > > visit:> >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> > > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list> >>>>>>> archives, please > > visit:> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> > > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> > > _______________________________________________> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list> >>>>>> archives, please > > visit:> >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> > > _______________________________________________> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit > > your list preferences, or view the list> >>>>> archives,> >>>>> please > > visit:> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> > > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives,> >>>>> >>> please visit:> >>>> >>>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________> >>> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> >>> please visit:> > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > >> --> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> To > > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> >> archives, > > please visit:> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> > > >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________> > To > > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > > > please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> > > >> >> > > _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders> _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. 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