Sure, everything is possible with software. The question is: is it possible with the provided API by Valve or is it possible with hooked functions. The last option is used by cheats.
> actually.... i found a plugin that can capture game events like > "player_death"... > > see this.... http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/411952/ > > in that page..... it says, the plugin can "monitor kill steaks", to help > people recording demos, knows what happens in that demo file.... > > but you told me that's impossible to capture game events in a CLIENT SIDE > plugin......, not only that.... also it can be VAC banned! > > this plugin proves 1 or 2 facts.... > > 1) is not impossible capture game events in a client side plugin like > "player_death" > 2) using this plugin can VAC ban you? > > what do you think?, detecting game events from client side plugin is not > possible?...... how this plugin manage to detect kill steaks? > > 2009/12/11 Joel R. <[email protected]> > >> Protection service for cheat server plugins? Sounds like a scam. >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Ronny Schedel <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> > No one said a server plugin cannot be used for cheating, the fact, it >> > is >> > used frequently for cheating and this is a problem. Some game server >> > companies offers you a protection service about cheat server plugins. >> > >> > >> > > wow...... i really tought that client side events detection were >> > > factible.... (bad inglish mode ON) >> > > >> > > if that was true.... about VAC banned...... why a client-side plugin >> can >> > > be >> > > a cheating plugin, and a server-side plugin not?...... >> > > >> > > i just wanted to make a client-side plugin to make easier record >> > > demos..... >> > > and when a player dies..... stop it..... and record with other name >> > > automatically..... so, it's impossible? ): >> > > >> > > >> > > 2009/12/11 Jacob Heidt <[email protected]> >> > > >> > >> True indeed. The way that those dirty cheaters tend to get their >> > >> hands >> > on >> > >> the internals, events etc, is through vfunc hooks - take a look at >> > >> the >> > >> SourceHook library in MetaMod:Source. >> > >> However, I would like to advise against client side mods/hooks on >> > >> mods/games >> > >> that are not yours. You may be VAC banned for detection of client >> > >> side >> > >> hooks, since 99.9999% of 3rd party client side hooks are from dirty >> > >> rotten >> > >> cheaters. >> > >> >> > >> .jheidt >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: [email protected] >> > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronny >> > >> Schedel >> > >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:02 AM >> > >> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming >> > >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] client-side game events >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> I don't think it's possible with the provided interface system by >> Valve, >> > >> two >> > >> >> > >> reasons: >> > >> >> > >> 1. Valve don't want to have their mods altered again. >> > >> 2. No one likes cheats. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > too bad!, i liked so much bananas! ): >> > >> > >> > >> > this is how i defined CEmptyServerPlugin: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > class CEmptyServerPlugin: public IServerPluginCallbacks, public >> > >> > IGameEventListener2 >> > >> > { >> > >> > [...] >> > >> > } >> > >> > >> > >> > but there's not any "IClientPluginCallbacks" maybe i need an >> > >> > include >> > >> > that >> > >> > is >> > >> > not come with the example? >> > >> > >> > >> > what should i do to capture CLIENT events? >> > >> > >> > >> > PD: please..... i'm not an experienced programmer..... dont laught >> of >> > >> > me ): >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2009/12/11 Ronny Schedel <[email protected]> >> > >> > >> > >> >> One million dollar question: what is the CEmptyServerPlugin for? >> > >> >> >> > >> >> 1) servers >> > >> >> 2) clients >> > >> >> 3) bananas >> > >> >> >> > >> >> If it is too difficult for you, here is a hint: it's not number >> > >> >> 3. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > hello again! >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > i'm a bit confused about how events are managed in game (team >> > >> >> > fortress >> > >> >> > 2) >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > actually, i'm coding a CLIENT SIDE plugin, in wich i need to >> detect >> > >> the >> > >> >> > "player_death" event... >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > this is what i got... >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > void CEmptyServerPlugin::FireGameEvent( IGameEvent * event ) >> > >> >> > { >> > >> >> > const char* eventName = event->GetName(); >> > >> >> > int _short; >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > if( FStrEq( eventName, "player_death")) >> > >> >> > { >> > >> >> > _short = event->GetInt( "userid"); >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > player_info_t pinfo; >> > >> >> > >> engineclient->GetPlayerInfo(engineclient->GetLocalPlayer(), >> > >> >> > &pinfo); >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > //verifify that client dies >> > >> >> > if( _short == pinfo.userID) >> > >> >> > { >> > >> >> > //code here >> > >> >> > } >> > >> >> > } >> > >> >> > } >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > this work well, when i create a server in the game..... but >> > >> >> > when >> i >> > >> play >> > >> >> in >> > >> >> > public servers..... it doesn't work.... >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > and this is what confuse me: >> > >> >> > to make this code work in public servers..... first i have to >> > create >> > >> my >> > >> >> > own >> > >> >> > server, and then connect to other i want >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > why this happen?, what should i do?..... i'm really confused >> > >> >> > here............ >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > my own investigations in google, told me that using >> > >> >> > "CEmptyServerPlugin" >> > >> >> > is >> > >> >> > the problem,..... i don't know.... >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > nice to met you all!, and greetings from Chile! 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