that's means that using this plugin:
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/411952/

can VAC ban you??

if that's the case...... wow, that would be a problem..... it has over 3000
downloads!



2009/12/12 Saul Rennison <[email protected]>

> Hooking functions modifies the client's memory space and VAC will go
> ballistic, it'll start fretting over what the fuck you're trying to do and
> why you're doing it. First guess: cheating.
>
> If you wanna take the risk then hook *
> IGameEventManager2::FireEventClientSide*.
>
> Thanks,
> - Saul.
>
>
> 2009/12/12 Ronny Schedel <[email protected]>
>
> >
> > Sure, everything is possible with software. The question is: is it
> possible
> > with the provided API by Valve or is it possible with hooked functions.
> The
> > last option is used by cheats.
> >
> >
> > > actually.... i found a plugin that can capture game events like
> > > "player_death"...
> > >
> > > see this.... http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/411952/
> > >
> > > in that page..... it says, the plugin can "monitor kill steaks", to
> help
> > > people recording demos, knows what happens in that demo file....
> > >
> > > but you told me that's impossible to capture game events in a CLIENT
> SIDE
> > > plugin......, not only that.... also it can be VAC banned!
> > >
> > > this plugin proves 1 or 2 facts....
> > >
> > > 1) is not impossible capture game events in a client side plugin like
> > > "player_death"
> > > 2) using this plugin can VAC ban you?
> > >
> > > what do you think?, detecting game events from client side plugin is
> not
> > > possible?...... how this plugin manage to detect kill steaks?
> > >
> > > 2009/12/11 Joel R. <[email protected]>
> > >
> > >> Protection service for cheat server plugins?  Sounds like a scam.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Ronny Schedel <[email protected]
> > >> >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > No one said a server plugin cannot be used for cheating, the fact,
> it
> > >> > is
> > >> > used frequently for cheating and this is a problem. Some game server
> > >> > companies offers you a protection service about cheat server
> plugins.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > wow...... i really tought that client side events detection were
> > >> > > factible.... (bad inglish mode ON)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > if that was true.... about VAC banned...... why a client-side
> plugin
> > >> can
> > >> > > be
> > >> > > a cheating plugin, and a server-side plugin not?......
> > >> > >
> > >> > > i just wanted to make a client-side plugin to make easier record
> > >> > > demos.....
> > >> > > and when a player dies..... stop it..... and record with other
> name
> > >> > > automatically..... so, it's impossible? ):
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2009/12/11 Jacob Heidt <[email protected]>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> True indeed. The way that those dirty cheaters tend to get their
> > >> > >> hands
> > >> > on
> > >> > >> the internals, events etc, is through vfunc hooks - take a look
> at
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> SourceHook library in MetaMod:Source.
> > >> > >> However, I would like to advise against client side mods/hooks on
> > >> > >> mods/games
> > >> > >> that are not yours. You may be VAC banned for detection of client
> > >> > >> side
> > >> > >> hooks, since 99.9999% of 3rd party client side hooks are from
> dirty
> > >> > >> rotten
> > >> > >> cheaters.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> .jheidt
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >> From: [email protected]
> > >> > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Ronny
> > >> > >> Schedel
> > >> > >> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:02 AM
> > >> > >> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] client-side game events
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I don't think it's possible with the provided interface system by
> > >> Valve,
> > >> > >> two
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> reasons:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> 1. Valve don't want to have their mods altered again.
> > >> > >> 2. No one likes cheats.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > too bad!, i liked so much bananas! ):
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > this is how i defined CEmptyServerPlugin:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > class CEmptyServerPlugin: public IServerPluginCallbacks, public
> > >> > >> > IGameEventListener2
> > >> > >> > {
> > >> > >> >     [...]
> > >> > >> > }
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > but there's not any "IClientPluginCallbacks" maybe i need an
> > >> > >> > include
> > >> > >> > that
> > >> > >> > is
> > >> > >> > not come with the example?
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > what should i do to capture CLIENT events?
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > PD: please..... i'm not an experienced programmer..... dont
> > laught
> > >> of
> > >> > >> > me ):
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 2009/12/11 Ronny Schedel <[email protected]>
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> One million dollar question: what is the CEmptyServerPlugin
> for?
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> 1) servers
> > >> > >> >> 2) clients
> > >> > >> >> 3) bananas
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> If it is too difficult for you, here is a hint: it's not
> number
> > >> > >> >> 3.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> > hello again!
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > i'm a bit confused about how events are managed in game
> (team
> > >> > >> >> > fortress
> > >> > >> >> > 2)
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > actually, i'm coding a CLIENT SIDE plugin, in wich i need to
> > >> detect
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> >> > "player_death" event...
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > this is what i got...
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > void CEmptyServerPlugin::FireGameEvent( IGameEvent * event )
> > >> > >> >> > {
> > >> > >> >> >    const char* eventName = event->GetName();
> > >> > >> >> >    int _short;
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >    if( FStrEq( eventName, "player_death"))
> > >> > >> >> >    {
> > >> > >> >> >        _short = event->GetInt( "userid");
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >        player_info_t pinfo;
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >>  engineclient->GetPlayerInfo(engineclient->GetLocalPlayer(),
> > >> > >> >> > &pinfo);
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >        //verifify that client dies
> > >> > >> >> >        if( _short == pinfo.userID)
> > >> > >> >> >        {
> > >> > >> >> >            //code here
> > >> > >> >> >        }
> > >> > >> >> >    }
> > >> > >> >> > }
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > this work well, when i create a server in the game..... but
> > >> > >> >> > when
> > >> i
> > >> > >> play
> > >> > >> >> in
> > >> > >> >> > public servers..... it doesn't work....
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > and this is what confuse me:
> > >> > >> >> > to make this code work in public servers..... first i have
> to
> > >> > create
> > >> > >> my
> > >> > >> >> > own
> > >> > >> >> > server, and then connect to other i want
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > why this happen?, what should i do?..... i'm really confused
> > >> > >> >> > here............
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > my own investigations in google, told me that using
> > >> > >> >> > "CEmptyServerPlugin"
> > >> > >> >> > is
> > >> > >> >> > the problem,..... i don't know....
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > nice to met you all!, and greetings from Chile! :D
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > PD: sorry for my bad english
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