Bruce appears to think I only started Valve bashing since the STEAM_ID
problem reared its ugly head.

The STEAM_ID problem is just a long line of unproffesional mistakes
made by people you would think would know better.

I mean I define intelligence as somebody who can learn from other
peoples mistakes.

It takes a rare sort of stupidity to continually make the same mistake
over and over and again despite all experience and information to the
contrary.


On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:12:55 -0400, Ray Spaulding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMHO, I think that the main point to see here is that Ragnarok Online "DID"
> something about the problem and Valve has done "NOTHING"! No public
> announcement, no acknowledgement, no fix, no attempts even. They just pocket
> the money and turn their monitors away from this list and the issues with
> their product. The main selling point of STEAM was to allow them to patch
> the games silently, quickly and effectively and the only thing we've seen
> them do so far in this issue is to sell their products and damn the bugs.
> They just released a game without the full line of it's contents, features
> that is FULL of bugs and people are running to their checkbooks to get it.
> They are demonstrating some of the worst business practices in the business
> and the common public is falling all over themselves to spend their money
> with this company. *Sad* IMHO, they are doing it for the hype that they gave
> the game and the reputation they are ruining.
>
> Ray S.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut"
> Andrews
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] ARGH, THEY CRACKED CS:SOURCE ALREADY ><
>
> You guys (not specifically you) are really bagging VALVe out too much
> over this.  I mean, the only reason I sent the information to this list
> was so server operators could effectively ban these twits, not so we
> could all sit around and poke fun at VALVe and whatever they may or may
> not have anticipated.
>
> Before you start bagging VALVe out, look around at some of the other
> companies.  Ragnarok Online just had it's entire database of users
> leaked, few months ago they had a huge outbreak of hacked accounts and
> had to roll back their entire system several days.  Things could be a
> -LOT- worse over here.
>
> Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
>
> Napier, Kevin wrote:
>
> >"" But...can they do it again?  ""
> >
> >Not likely at this point.  (I wish them luck though.)
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ooks Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:41 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [hlds] ARGH, THEY CRACKED CS:SOURCE ALREADY ><
> >
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