-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Without reading your entire message and answering the first Question. I believe Valve should focus their entire attention on fixing the "Non-Steam" clients. The ones that have cracked a copy of Steam and passed it around where people are getting HL2 and the back catalog for free and are able to make new accounts with just a few key strokes. That I believe is what Valve should be working on nothing more and nothing less. Once that is cleared up then they can move on to whatever they want to do.
Rich -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 01/25/05 15:46:10 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve's Business & Cheats Richard that is such a poor analogy I am not even going to bother to poke holes in it, and any case it does not address the issues I raise. This is not even about cheats or VAC. I am trying to discuss what would be the best course of action Valve can take to maximise their business. As I stated before What do you think Richard, is the best thing Valve can do to sell more games for what is a primarily, an online gaming experience? What do online players want the most these days? When you answer that question, then you will understand why I cannot work out why Valve is not moving with as much haste as possible to direct as many resources as required to resolve the issues we all, including Valve, currently face. As for who is repsonsible, well Valve are the ones writing the code, who else should we be calling to account? The Server Administrators? The GSP's / ISP's? The 3rd party programmers who work for nothing and donate their time and skills to create programs and who's efforts are ultimately undermined by Valve's own coding? The Players who the majority of, only want to play in a cheat free environment? As for your clarification. You wouldn't happen to be looking for a job with the Tax Department or something Richard? If I was more machiavellian person, I would think you did it deliberately in order to muddy the issue further, so the whole thread was de-railed and went completely off-topic. The word "obfuscate" comes to ones mind, so lets not waste time debating Richard's flawed analogies and logic. It's wrong, off topic and not really worth expending any additional time on. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:05:54 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Richard Welsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > The engine is not bolted shut, I can open the hood of my car. I can do > anything I want inside there, change spark plugs, bore it out, put a new > battery in. Infact I can even build my own engine to put in the car (mod) > > The thing is be patient, valve has to pay their employees some how and if > they spend there entire budget on anti-cheat... bye bye valve. > I suspect that there is a lack of an update to VAC because the original VAC > wont cooperate with the Source Engine... so they have to make a new one. > And only working 8 to 10 hours a day it can take some time. > > Yelling about it isn't gonna make it show up faster. Remember what happens > when you get want you want to early... An unfunctional game, system, or > product. > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: [email protected] > Date: 01/25/05 13:56:53 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Valve's Business & Cheats > > Richard Welsh wrote: > > If you think Valve is responsible to make an anti-cheat you are > > mistaking. It is not up to Valve to make an anti-cheat. They get no > > more money for it from anyone when they make it. > > It's a good analogy, Richard, but you left out the part where the car > maker bolts their engine shut, assumes responsibility for preventing > speeding and prohibits others from doing anything more than putting up > little speed limit signs on the roads. > > Valve accepted responsibility for anti-cheat technology by starting VAC. > They told Punkbuster to bugger off, and disabled a key part of HLGuard's > previous prevention methods. The community's tried to work around it, > but there's not a whole lot they can do without putting a larger burden > on a mostly clueless and lazy playerbase (i.e., Cheating-Death). > > -- > ironchef > http://www.dexworld.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
