I will never understand why Valve make this this kind of "fixes" that broke 
something else without any warning. Is it so dificult to contact with the 
Mani/AMX plugin devs, for example, some days before relase so they are able to 
update their code and everybody is happy?

... really tired of this.

Alfred Reynolds escribi�(Fri, 20 May 2005 00:49:04 -0700):
>�They are using an undocumented hack to display those menus, this
>�update removes the hack and so they can no longer use it (because
>�the last subsystem that was using it, radio menus, has finally been
>�fixed to be client side). They have a plugin API to display
>�messages to users and get feedback, they should use that.
>
>�- Alfred
>
>�----Original Message----
>�From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>�[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K2 Sent:
>�Friday, May 20, 2005 12:43 AM To: [email protected]
>�Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update
>
>>�Thx Alfred for staying on top of this and offering a roll-back.
>>�Looking forward to the fix.
>>
>>�Something else tho that I believe needs to be addressed. The Mani
>>�plugin as well as Beetles plugin no longer work as intended - the
>>�AMX-style menus no longer function. A quote from Beetle: 'valve
>>�stopped any commands from the menus being sent to the server... I
>>�have no idea of any way to do it now..'
>>
>>�Was this intentional or part of the problem with the new binary?
>>
>>�- K2
>>
>>�-----Original Message-----
>>�From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>�[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred
>>�Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:35 PM To:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/
>>�new update
>>
>>�I am going to do an update soon that will roll the binary back
>>�(but keep the new de_inferno, it had a couple valuable fixes perf
>>�wise). The de_inferno update made the whole update mandatory.
>>
>>�- Alfred
>>
>>�----Original Message----
>>�From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>�[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon
>>�Garner Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:26 PM To:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] server crashes w/
>>�new update
>>
>>>�On 20/05/2005 3:47 p.m., Alfred Reynolds wrote:
>>>>�I have had a couple reports of this happening on de_port.
>>>>�Does anyone get it on any other Valve maps? (not third party
>>>>�ones).
>>>>
>>>>�- Alfred
>>>>
>>>
>>>�Seems to be happening on all maps.
>>>
>>>�Save us Alfred, teh servers are dyiinng!
>>>
>>>�On a related note, why was this a required update anyway? I
>>>�wasn't even going to bother updating as I hadn't had any
>>>�trouble with the two issues it was fixing, but unfortunately I
>>>�was forced to. :(
>>>
>>>�-Simon
>>>
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