They was going to. The wiki pages for it still exist, but it looks like the
project was abandoned. Besides, no one really wants Valve to get involved in
a server admin tool because 3rd party developers are doing a real good job
with them.

What a lot of server operators want, is a proper beta program where all new
updates from Valve are run for a set system so everyone, including the
plugin developers can see exactly is what on the horizon.

Leave Valve to update the actual game functionality, because us server
admins are tired of trying to get ourselves heard over the server-hopping 13
year olds, who think server admins are worse that the police or traffic
wardens.....that's not Valves fault - that's the way it is. That's the way
the cookie crumbles, that's the way the chips have landed yada yada yada.

Server admins are best off served by the 3rd party plugin developer
community, if only Valve would concede that, the whole thing would work, if
they bothered to implement a proper beta system where all new updates are
pre-published so that the plugin community can patch their plugins against
what Valve is releasing.

If Valve launched an official admin tool. We would be forever sitting here
begging them for this that and the other and we would be bitching with the
normal gaming punters for airtime, trying to convince Valve that certain
server features are more important than a HDR release of a certain map. No
thanks. An official beta program is a server admins wet dream come true.

Does Valve still think it's not practical? My C.V is in the post.


Cheers.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munky Judder
Sent: 19 May 2007 14:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Blocking Client Commands

TBH I don't get why valve can't come up with an GUI version of RCON....why
use Mani if theres something with Valves name on it....also it wouldnt break
every damn update. Still that would be common sense wouldnt it. Stuck
perpetually playing catchup seems silly when the goalposts keep moving.

Munky


>From: "Chris Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [hlds] Blocking Client Commands
>Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 11:51:16 +0100
>
>
>If you want to be grateful for crumbs at the table, that's your problem
>mate. Unless Valve puts a proper system in place where there is published
>procedures, where a beta is done for all updates, one beta just because it
>helps Valve's nerves, means absolutely nothing to me. I will be testing my
>servers on this beta when I get the chance, but I don't have to. As long as
>the plugin developers test then great.
>
>If it's not practical to run a beta on every update, it's not practical to
>run Steam, a system where thousands of servers are updated overnight,
>without a proper beta test.
>
>Also, the person you are replying to, is merely stating fact.
>
>He didn't reply back
>
>"OMFG Valve, you nooblets, you've broken Mani!", he's just reporting back
>that Mani is broke, so the rest of us can investigate.
>
>This is the problem. Unless Valve have a procedure that guarantees to the
>plugin developers that certain code is going to go live, then why would the
>plugin developers patch against it, unless they know for certain, that it's
>the exact code that's going to go live?
>
>Alfred keeps maintaining that it's not practical for Valve to do betas for
>every update. It's only not practical, because they haven't bothered to
>design a system that makes it practical.
>
>Cheers.
>
>Chris.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
>Sent: 17 May 2007 12:17
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Blocking Client Commands
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>Dudes
>
>All this stuff is a pretty big change to the SRCDS engine
>
>It is probably primarly due to all the changes that were required that are
>simply breaking the mods.
>
>Gawd, some of you talk like you never had to go through this before /sigh
>
>At least this time you are getting a shot at it with a beta, rather than
>waking up one day and finding your servers completely trashed by a SRCDS
>you
>didn't even know was coming
>
>sheesh
>
>On 5/17/07, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I would still Like to hear it from valve.
> > Are they going to allow Custom Commands?
> >
> >
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:26 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
> > >It appears so Ray.
> > >
> > >Mani is now completely useless :(
> > >
> > >>From: Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Reply-To: [email protected]
> > >>To: [email protected]
> > >>Subject: [hlds] Blocking Client Commands
> > >>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 06:05:01 -0400
> > >>
> > >>the new beta looks to be blocking all client commands now..
> > >>Why are commands like votemaps etc (NON VALVE) commands getting
>blocked
> > >>now??
> > >>
> > >>is this intended Alfred?
> > >>
> > >>Ray
> > >>
> > >>
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