Well I say if Valve wants to make a server admin tool and other plugins so
we can admin our servers while at the same collect all the important data
like hits to the various parts of the body, then I am all for it.
But they don't so we have to use these 3rd party plugins in order to please
the players. The players want all the bells and whistles that just do not
come with a stock DODS Server.
It would make my job easier if I did not have to add so many plugins.
Just my two cents worth!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Blocking Client Commands
You can make all the suggestions you want. It's my opinion that most
server
admins want to keep their third party plugins working, rather than Valve
push out updates overnight that break them.
There is no official links I would ever be able to muster up, that proves
what features want most.
But hey, it's a good job it's just a Valve mailing list and not the UN
security council.
What do you want me to prove next? That server admins want to keep their
servers up and running?
Any server admin that doesn't want a beat program, quite simply doesn't
know
he wants it yet. Hang around for another few years of broken plugins and
servers overnight and believe me, all you want is a freakin beta program.
If
by that stage you happen to be in that small percentage that don't, it's
only because you run little or no plugins, which ain't exactly the norm
for
a server operator.
Cheers,
Chris.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Regime
Sent: 19 May 2007 19:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Blocking Client Commands
If you are going to speak for 'us server admins' and such I think it
would be a good idea to provide some sources upon which you base your
statements. If you can not, I suggest you speak for yourself, or not at
all.
---
Regime
http://www.livebythegun.com/
Chris Barnett wrote:
They was going to. The wiki pages for it still exist, but it looks like
the
project was abandoned. Besides, no one really wants Valve to get involved
in
a server admin tool because 3rd party developers are doing a real good
job
with them.
What a lot of server operators want, is a proper beta program where all
new
updates from Valve are run for a set system so everyone, including the
plugin developers can see exactly is what on the horizon.
Leave Valve to update the actual game functionality, because us server
admins are tired of trying to get ourselves heard over the server-hopping
13
year olds, who think server admins are worse that the police or traffic
wardens.....that's not Valves fault - that's the way it is. That's the
way
the cookie crumbles, that's the way the chips have landed yada yada yada.
Server admins are best off served by the 3rd party plugin developer
community, if only Valve would concede that, the whole thing would work,
if
they bothered to implement a proper beta system where all new updates are
pre-published so that the plugin community can patch their plugins
against
what Valve is releasing.
If Valve launched an official admin tool. We would be forever sitting
here
begging them for this that and the other and we would be bitching with
the
normal gaming punters for airtime, trying to convince Valve that certain
server features are more important than a HDR release of a certain map.
No
thanks. An official beta program is a server admins wet dream come true.
Does Valve still think it's not practical? My C.V is in the post.
Cheers.
Chris.
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