I completely agree, we ran 3 32-player servers. They were always full
the majority of the day, and remained somewhat populated overnight.
Ever since the update they are completely empty, we get 8 or so people
to help get the server going, but no "normal" players (who are just
joining random servers and happen to choose us) ever join anymore.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Steven Hartland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This new custom tab is killing once VERY popular servers.
>
>  Most players are stupid they either don't notice the "tabs"
>  or don't know what it means, hence don't even bother clicking
>  it.
>
>  "Internet" should list ALL Internet servers, if you want
>  to enable a filter for standard servers surely a tickbox
>  in the same way as "Server is not full", which hides and
>  blanks the tags box, is a much better way to go?
>
>  "Internet" and "Custom" simply doesn't make any sense.
>
>  If your going to have separate tabs:
>  1. Obvious names, "internet" = all internet servers not
>  just "standard" internet servers.
>  2. Make is consistent, not one interface for "in game"
>  and one interface for the "steam" global list as that just
>  adds to the confusion.
>
>  Personally I really don't think two tabs is the way to go
>  as that means for example I couldn't filter LAN servers for
>  just standard servers. So in my book this simply has to be
>  a just a filters option: "Only standard rules" or
>  something similar.
>
>  This should NOT be filtered by default as doing so would
>  be in contra to the rest of the design i.e. nothing is
>  filtered unless the client specifically requests it.
>
>  I understand that Valve wants users to have a good experience
>  but custom rules are the least of your worries here. This
>  comes from bitter experience when Epic enforced as similar
>  "default" filter in UT which killed off a large portion of
>  servers which where once the staple part of the community.
>
>  Choice is good, informed choice is even better, which is
>  what tags provides :) Its just the Internet vs. Custom tab
>  which needs a serious revisit.
>
>     Regards
>     Steve
>
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