Ya, but that's basically the same thing. They'll make "Standard" the default and we'll have pretty much the same issue we have now.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Woodrow Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Custom tab is / will kill of popular servers :( If you ask me they need to reverse it. Have an internet tab and a 'standard' tab. Internet shows everything and standard shows only server that arn't custom. Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: > +1 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. Bhandal > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Custom tab is / will kill of popular servers :( > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Amen. > > The custom tab, while well intended, is killing off servers that are in it. > It doesn't even have a regional filter, so quite often players won't even > see the server in the custom tab list unless they manage to get all servers > in the refresh. > > The custom tab was well intended but the execution on it was terrible. It > really should have had a more extensive testing period. > > Sadly I'm sure nothing will come of it. In the next patch they'll once again > try to patch over the workaround people have found (I'm sure they'll > eventually be successful) and they'll fail to address the root of the > problem. > > No server owners have a problem with the custom tab, we understand why > you're putting those servers there, the problem is that the custom tab just > isn't usable in its current incarnation. I can't imagine it would have been > terribly difficult to just import the internet tab filters into the custom > area and add the tag filtering in, that would have effectively solve the > primary issue with the custom tab. > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> This new custom tab is killing once VERY popular servers. >> >> Most players are stupid they either don't notice the "tabs" >> or don't know what it means, hence don't even bother clicking >> it. >> >> "Internet" should list ALL Internet servers, if you want >> to enable a filter for standard servers surely a tickbox >> in the same way as "Server is not full", which hides and >> blanks the tags box, is a much better way to go? >> >> "Internet" and "Custom" simply doesn't make any sense. >> >> If your going to have separate tabs: >> 1. Obvious names, "internet" = all internet servers not >> just "standard" internet servers. >> 2. Make is consistent, not one interface for "in game" >> and one interface for the "steam" global list as that just >> adds to the confusion. >> >> Personally I really don't think two tabs is the way to go >> as that means for example I couldn't filter LAN servers for >> just standard servers. So in my book this simply has to be >> a just a filters option: "Only standard rules" or >> something similar. >> >> This should NOT be filtered by default as doing so would >> be in contra to the rest of the design i.e. nothing is >> filtered unless the client specifically requests it. >> >> I understand that Valve wants users to have a good experience >> but custom rules are the least of your worries here. This >> comes from bitter experience when Epic enforced as similar >> "default" filter in UT which killed off a large portion of >> servers which where once the staple part of the community. >> >> Choice is good, informed choice is even better, which is >> what tags provides :) Its just the Internet vs. Custom tab >> which needs a serious revisit. >> >> Regards >> Steve >> >> ================================================ >> This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and >> the person or entity to whom it is addressed. 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