I have to agree. Our once popular servers now sit empty after the custom tab
addition.
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From: "Garry Newman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Custom tab is / will kill of popular servers :(
Can't you just make your server normal and have it shown on the Internet
tab?
Surely servers with mods should be niche and people should go looking for
them.
garry
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Tony Paloma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Ya, but that's basically the same thing. They'll make "Standard" the
default
and we'll have pretty much the same issue we have now.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Woodrow
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Custom tab is / will kill of popular servers :(
If you ask me they need to reverse it.
Have an internet tab and a 'standard' tab.
Internet shows everything and standard shows only server that arn't
custom.
Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
> +1
>
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> Subject: Re: [hlds] Custom tab is / will kill of popular servers :(
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> Amen.
>
> The custom tab, while well intended, is killing off servers that are
in
it.
> It doesn't even have a regional filter, so quite often players won't
even
> see the server in the custom tab list unless they manage to get all
servers
> in the refresh.
>
> The custom tab was well intended but the execution on it was terrible.
It
> really should have had a more extensive testing period.
>
> Sadly I'm sure nothing will come of it. In the next patch they'll once
again
> try to patch over the workaround people have found (I'm sure they'll
> eventually be successful) and they'll fail to address the root of the
> problem.
>
> No server owners have a problem with the custom tab, we understand why
> you're putting those servers there, the problem is that the custom tab
just
> isn't usable in its current incarnation. I can't imagine it would have
been
> terribly difficult to just import the internet tab filters into the
custom
> area and add the tag filtering in, that would have effectively solve
the
> primary issue with the custom tab.
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Steven Hartland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>> This new custom tab is killing once VERY popular servers.
>>
>> Most players are stupid they either don't notice the "tabs"
>> or don't know what it means, hence don't even bother clicking
>> it.
>>
>> "Internet" should list ALL Internet servers, if you want
>> to enable a filter for standard servers surely a tickbox
>> in the same way as "Server is not full", which hides and
>> blanks the tags box, is a much better way to go?
>>
>> "Internet" and "Custom" simply doesn't make any sense.
>>
>> If your going to have separate tabs:
>> 1. Obvious names, "internet" = all internet servers not
>> just "standard" internet servers.
>> 2. Make is consistent, not one interface for "in game"
>> and one interface for the "steam" global list as that just
>> adds to the confusion.
>>
>> Personally I really don't think two tabs is the way to go
>> as that means for example I couldn't filter LAN servers for
>> just standard servers. So in my book this simply has to be
>> a just a filters option: "Only standard rules" or
>> something similar.
>>
>> This should NOT be filtered by default as doing so would
>> be in contra to the rest of the design i.e. nothing is
>> filtered unless the client specifically requests it.
>>
>> I understand that Valve wants users to have a good experience
>> but custom rules are the least of your worries here. This
>> comes from bitter experience when Epic enforced as similar
>> "default" filter in UT which killed off a large portion of
>> servers which where once the staple part of the community.
>>
>> Choice is good, informed choice is even better, which is
>> what tags provides :) Its just the Internet vs. Custom tab
>> which needs a serious revisit.
>>
>> Regards
>> Steve
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