+1 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. Bhandal Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Custom tab is / will kill of popular servers :(
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Amen. The custom tab, while well intended, is killing off servers that are in it. It doesn't even have a regional filter, so quite often players won't even see the server in the custom tab list unless they manage to get all servers in the refresh. The custom tab was well intended but the execution on it was terrible. It really should have had a more extensive testing period. Sadly I'm sure nothing will come of it. In the next patch they'll once again try to patch over the workaround people have found (I'm sure they'll eventually be successful) and they'll fail to address the root of the problem. No server owners have a problem with the custom tab, we understand why you're putting those servers there, the problem is that the custom tab just isn't usable in its current incarnation. I can't imagine it would have been terribly difficult to just import the internet tab filters into the custom area and add the tag filtering in, that would have effectively solve the primary issue with the custom tab. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This new custom tab is killing once VERY popular servers. > > Most players are stupid they either don't notice the "tabs" > or don't know what it means, hence don't even bother clicking > it. > > "Internet" should list ALL Internet servers, if you want > to enable a filter for standard servers surely a tickbox > in the same way as "Server is not full", which hides and > blanks the tags box, is a much better way to go? > > "Internet" and "Custom" simply doesn't make any sense. > > If your going to have separate tabs: > 1. Obvious names, "internet" = all internet servers not > just "standard" internet servers. > 2. Make is consistent, not one interface for "in game" > and one interface for the "steam" global list as that just > adds to the confusion. > > Personally I really don't think two tabs is the way to go > as that means for example I couldn't filter LAN servers for > just standard servers. So in my book this simply has to be > a just a filters option: "Only standard rules" or > something similar. > > This should NOT be filtered by default as doing so would > be in contra to the rest of the design i.e. nothing is > filtered unless the client specifically requests it. > > I understand that Valve wants users to have a good experience > but custom rules are the least of your worries here. This > comes from bitter experience when Epic enforced as similar > "default" filter in UT which killed off a large portion of > servers which where once the staple part of the community. > > Choice is good, informed choice is even better, which is > what tags provides :) Its just the Internet vs. Custom tab > which needs a serious revisit. > > Regards > Steve > > ================================================ > This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and > the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, > the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise > disseminating it or any information contained in it. > > In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please > telephone +44 845 868 1337 > or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
