If you ask me they need to reverse it.
Have an internet tab and a 'standard' tab.
Internet shows everything and standard shows only server that arn't custom.
Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
+1
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Custom tab is / will kill of popular servers :(
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Amen.
The custom tab, while well intended, is killing off servers that are in it.
It doesn't even have a regional filter, so quite often players won't even
see the server in the custom tab list unless they manage to get all servers
in the refresh.
The custom tab was well intended but the execution on it was terrible. It
really should have had a more extensive testing period.
Sadly I'm sure nothing will come of it. In the next patch they'll once again
try to patch over the workaround people have found (I'm sure they'll
eventually be successful) and they'll fail to address the root of the
problem.
No server owners have a problem with the custom tab, we understand why
you're putting those servers there, the problem is that the custom tab just
isn't usable in its current incarnation. I can't imagine it would have been
terribly difficult to just import the internet tab filters into the custom
area and add the tag filtering in, that would have effectively solve the
primary issue with the custom tab.
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
This new custom tab is killing once VERY popular servers.
Most players are stupid they either don't notice the "tabs"
or don't know what it means, hence don't even bother clicking
it.
"Internet" should list ALL Internet servers, if you want
to enable a filter for standard servers surely a tickbox
in the same way as "Server is not full", which hides and
blanks the tags box, is a much better way to go?
"Internet" and "Custom" simply doesn't make any sense.
If your going to have separate tabs:
1. Obvious names, "internet" = all internet servers not
just "standard" internet servers.
2. Make is consistent, not one interface for "in game"
and one interface for the "steam" global list as that just
adds to the confusion.
Personally I really don't think two tabs is the way to go
as that means for example I couldn't filter LAN servers for
just standard servers. So in my book this simply has to be
a just a filters option: "Only standard rules" or
something similar.
This should NOT be filtered by default as doing so would
be in contra to the rest of the design i.e. nothing is
filtered unless the client specifically requests it.
I understand that Valve wants users to have a good experience
but custom rules are the least of your worries here. This
comes from bitter experience when Epic enforced as similar
"default" filter in UT which killed off a large portion of
servers which where once the staple part of the community.
Choice is good, informed choice is even better, which is
what tags provides :) Its just the Internet vs. Custom tab
which needs a serious revisit.
Regards
Steve
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