My point was Valve will always do what they think is best and will not change it.
I would also really expect something like this for dods and css when they are rolled over to the orange box. Which sucks cuase my gungames servers have the most population of players on reg basis. And I am still more worried about of the server list displays the servers by pinging/fanning out from the clients ip. My servers are in chicago but with a 205 ips I really only see Canadian players. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy L Havener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve,thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 community. > None of those examples have direct context to this situation. Myself and > others can provide proof of how this hurting our servers. Two of which > have > no alterattion other than they 8 slots larger than the standard of 24. > Why > do 64 slot servers show up in CS:S which clearly isn't designed for that > many players, but yet a 32 slot TF2 server is sooooo bad it has to be put > on > a boxcar and shipped to the custom server tab. Just leave us be and let > the > players have a fair server filtering system that allows ALL servers to be > seen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Munra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:24 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve,thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 > community. > > >> Valve always here "your going kill the game Community" >> >> They heard it when css came out >> They heard it when steam came out >> They heard it when they shut down the won servers. >> >> I am more worried about my servers havin ips in the 205 ranges rather >> then >> the custom tab killing 32 player servers >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:23 PM >> Subject: RE: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 >> community. >> >> >>> You pulled the words right out of my mouth. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L >>> Havener >>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:06 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 >>> community. >>> >>> Paaahleeeease....I have plenty of regulars. You don't get two servers >>> into >>> the top 10 rankings without a lot of regulars. Two of my servers still >>> get >>> populated during peak gaming hours, but they empty out around 1-3 am and >>> fill back up around lunchtime whereas they used to stay full 24/7. Not >>> being listed on the internet tab really hurts in the morning hours when >>> most >>> of my regulars aren't on. And I posted to all my members about the >>> customs >>> tab and most didnt know what it was. I got a crap load of pm's on steam >>> asking me why I took my servers down after the update. This stinks and >>> I >>> don't like it. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Cc2iscooL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 >>> community. >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>> If you had enough regulars, your servers would stay full. >>>> >>>> For instance, on Friday Night, I like to run party mode on my servers, >>>> which >>>> places them on the custom tab. I can still keep them full from the time >>>> it >>>> starts up until about dying gaming hours (around 4-5 AM CST) >>>> >>>> The custom tab is a deterrent to generic pubbers, but your regulars >>>> will >>>> still see you on their favorites tab. >>>> >>>> I will agree though, pubbers generally won't even touch the custom tab. >>>> Maybe if people started actually using the custom tab, though, people >>>> would >>>> generally shift over to it based on their desire for gameplay. With all >>>> the >>>> server operators exploiting the internet listing as it is right now, no >>>> one >>>> will ever use the custom listing because the servers like that are >>>> still >>>> in >>>> the internet list. >>>> >>>> If no server operators use the custom list, then neither will the >>>> players, >>>> thus why you see such a lack of use on it. >>>> >>>> To be honest, I think if more server operators used it and educated the >>>> players they play with on the use of it, I think there would be a lot >>>> more >>>> people using the custom tab. >>>> >>>> Now, granted, it will never compare to the usage of the internet tab, >>>> but >>>> all this "cheating" to get on the internet list isn't going to help the >>>> custom list at all. No one is going to use it if there aren't any good >>>> servers there. >>>> >>>> Just a thought. >>>> >>>> -Cc2iscooL >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Timothy L Havener < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>> -- >>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>>> I had 3 servers full pretty much 24/7 and since the implementation of >>>>> the >>>>> customs tab I have had trouble even getting them populated during peak >>>>> gaming hours. I have received complaint after complaint from members >>>>> about >>>>> the new system. The majority of players did not even know there was a >>>>> customs tab to find our servers. My Dustbowl server was ranked in the >>>>> top 3 >>>>> on game-monitor and has been dropping consistently since the last >>>>> update. >>>>> Just wanted to say thanks. 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