"I will say that your proof is probably the best we can get outside of valve."
I'm pretty sure valve doesn't have statistics on this issue, so it's the best we can get period, unless someone else comes up with something better. "So if you don't ignore those, what's to stop someone from refreshing the custom tab several times a minute to alter the stats?" They would have to sit there refreshing the list, and I would catch such a thing and remove all of their queries. They'd be wasting their time. "My mistake then. Indifferent you want. hating your options, you don't." Yeah. "Perhaps you should remove results that take place from the same IP within 1 min?" Yes and I can do this after the fact since I keep track of the exact time of each query. If it becomes a problem, I will do it. In fact, I have just came up with a perfect way to prevent someone from abusing the stats and will be implementing it within an hour. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard L. Church Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:46 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Internet Tab VS Custom Tab Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: > "We already discussed why your numbers are off. Your 90% I assume is > coming from your stats page." > > I can never win can I? > > First they say "You don't have proof" > > So I take the effort to collect proof. > > Then they say "Your proof is flawed" > > If my proof is flawed, run your own experiment to counter mine. I make my > proof available and easy to access. I would love to. But I can't. I will say that your proof is probably the best we can get outside of valve. But that still doesn't mean that it is not flawed for the reasons I named. It just can't be used for proof. > "Why? I thought you didn't want indifferent players?" > > I don't want players on my server who dislike fast respawn, or dislike 30 > player servers. My mistake then. Indifferent you want. hating your options, you don't. > "So what is your standard? That was the question. If it shows up 20 > times.. Is that to much? 10? 5? 50? What about timespan? I admit, it's > an extreme case, but what if I'm one of the few people online at 3am and > I refresh a few times. Does that remove me from the list because you see > more then 1 in a row?" > > 100 queries = reported on page. These numbers are still used in the overall > totals. This number may be increased as the experiment goes on. > > The only queries I ignore are if both servers are queried at the same exact > time. If that is the case the person used the out of game steam browser. I > blatantly report that on the page indicating that I am removing that number > from the totals. I wasn't questioning that. What I was questioning is the player who refreshes. So if you don't ignore those, what's to stop someone from refreshing the custom tab several times a minute to alter the stats? Perhaps you should remove results that take place from the same IP within 1 min? _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
