Could this have anything to do with all the junk that shows in the steam
store when you load the client?


> I just ran wireshark while starting portal.  About the time the menu is
> fully loaded the packets start to fly.  What are these packets?  Is
> valve stealing all your data! omg no... it's querying all of the source
> servers.   The data is going to hl2.exe not steam.exe so I would say it
> looks like they left some multi player code in there that should not run
> for portal.  I bet hl2ep2 does the same thing.
>
> Ook wrote:
>> When I fire up Steam, it maxes out my bandwidth for just a few seconds.
>> If I
>> open the server browser, it downloads at ~300k as it retrieves server
>> list,
>> and this goes on for about 2 minutes. I have 3mb down, so 300k doesn't
>> tax
>> my connection.
>>
>> So I fired up Portal. Bandwidth did the exact same thing - ~300k down
>> for
>> about 2 minutes. I suspect it was refreshing the browser list again
>> (even
>> though there is no Portal multi-player). I'm not sure how many
>> concurrent
>> outgoing connections it opened up. If I had the time I'd try it with my
>> Netgear router, since I know it has a very small routing table.
>>
>> I wonder how much of the noise level about this is caused by people with
>> limited bandwidth and/or routers that can't handle it? It doesn't take
>> much
>> to knock out a low end crap consumer grade router - gosh only knows I've
>> had
>> enough of them myself and experienced first hand what a lousy router can
>> (or
>> can't) do.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrew A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] So what is steam client uploading
>> thatiskilling/hammering clients connections?
>>
>>
>>> My dlink DI-704 dies with browser list , would be good if default
>>> wasn't
>>> all
>>> games all locations :/ it never stays when i set filters.. and while
>>> i'm
>>> here , is there a way to log friends messages ?
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Ook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I started TF2 and watched my bandwidth. Nothing out of the ordinary.
>>>> Of
>>>> the
>>>> games I've tried, only Portal did it. TF2 works fine for me. Go
>>>> figure?
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what routers/modems are being used by those that get timed
>>>> out?
>>>> I'm
>>>> using a Westell 2100, which has a fairly large routing table. My
>>>> Netgear
>>>> had
>>>> a real small routing table, and would do this quite easily. Never seen
>>>> it
>>>> happen with the Westell.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "James McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>  Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:10 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] So what is steam client uploading that
>>>> iskilling/hammering clients connections?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if this is related but lately I've been getting timed out of
>>>> TF2
>>>>> servers without warning. I'll be playing fine then I'll get dumped to
>>>> the
>>>>> splash screen saying I timed out. Not sure if it's related. If I quit
>>>> the
>>>>> game it takes about 10 seconds before my connection to the net starts
>>>>> working properly again.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Ook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I start Portal, I see it, and this is without the server browser
>>>>>> running.
>>>>>> If I start TF2 or HL2, I don't. It downloads at about 256k, which is
>>>>>> enough
>>>>>> to swamp a bottom end DSL connection. Upload is about 150k or so.
>>>>>> Curiosier
>>>>>> and curiosier....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Cc2iscooL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:30 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] So what is steam client uploading that is
>>>>>> killing/hammering clients connections?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's sending them your personal pornography collection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On a more serious note, I haven't noticed this upload that people
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> talking about. Does it only happen at specific times?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reading the forum posts listed it looks like they have their server
>>>> tab
>>>>>>> running. If you open the server tab and go to the internet, and if
>>>> all
>>>>>>> games are selected, it will try to hit all servers, sometimes
>>>> resulting
>>>>>>> in high upload/lots of connections which can screw up a router or
>>>>>>> low-bandwidth connection. This will also happen when you exit the
>>>> game
>>>>>>> if you've opened the server window. The solution is, if you open
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> server window, make sure it's not refreshing all servers or set it
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the recent or favorites tab, as it will stop the auto-refresh of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> internet tab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nephyrin Zey wrote:
>>>>>>>> I too, an interested in what the client is sending to valve...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Neph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Bikkies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Valve?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  What are our steam clients uploading regarding this:
>>>>>>>>>  http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7583482
>>>>>>>>>  and this
>>>>>>>>>  http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=677491
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  And when will it be fixed so i can actually use steam again...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>  Bikkies.
>>>>>>>>>
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