Probably not. The behavior of the bandwidth usage in Portal is identical to the bandwidth usage when I open the server browser. The junk in the steam store I think gets downloaded when you start steam, and that is a quick burst of just a few seconds or so with a much higher bandwidth limit.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] So what is steam client uploading thatiskilling/hammering clients connections? > Could this have anything to do with all the junk that shows in the steam > store when you load the client? > > >> I just ran wireshark while starting portal. About the time the menu is >> fully loaded the packets start to fly. What are these packets? Is >> valve stealing all your data! omg no... it's querying all of the source >> servers. The data is going to hl2.exe not steam.exe so I would say it >> looks like they left some multi player code in there that should not run >> for portal. I bet hl2ep2 does the same thing. >> >> Ook wrote: >>> When I fire up Steam, it maxes out my bandwidth for just a few seconds. >>> If I >>> open the server browser, it downloads at ~300k as it retrieves server >>> list, >>> and this goes on for about 2 minutes. I have 3mb down, so 300k doesn't >>> tax >>> my connection. >>> >>> So I fired up Portal. Bandwidth did the exact same thing - ~300k down >>> for >>> about 2 minutes. I suspect it was refreshing the browser list again >>> (even >>> though there is no Portal multi-player). I'm not sure how many >>> concurrent >>> outgoing connections it opened up. If I had the time I'd try it with my >>> Netgear router, since I know it has a very small routing table. >>> >>> I wonder how much of the noise level about this is caused by people with >>> limited bandwidth and/or routers that can't handle it? It doesn't take >>> much >>> to knock out a low end crap consumer grade router - gosh only knows I've >>> had >>> enough of them myself and experienced first hand what a lousy router can >>> (or >>> can't) do. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:18 AM >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] So what is steam client uploading >>> thatiskilling/hammering clients connections? >>> >>> >>>> My dlink DI-704 dies with browser list , would be good if default >>>> wasn't >>>> all >>>> games all locations :/ it never stays when i set filters.. and while >>>> i'm >>>> here , is there a way to log friends messages ? >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Ook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I started TF2 and watched my bandwidth. Nothing out of the ordinary. >>>>> Of >>>>> the >>>>> games I've tried, only Portal did it. TF2 works fine for me. Go >>>>> figure? >>>>> >>>>> I wonder what routers/modems are being used by those that get timed >>>>> out? >>>>> I'm >>>>> using a Westell 2100, which has a fairly large routing table. My >>>>> Netgear >>>>> had >>>>> a real small routing table, and would do this quite easily. Never seen >>>>> it >>>>> happen with the Westell. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "James McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:10 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] So what is steam client uploading that >>>>> iskilling/hammering clients connections? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Not sure if this is related but lately I've been getting timed out of >>>>> TF2 >>>>>> servers without warning. I'll be playing fine then I'll get dumped to >>>>> the >>>>>> splash screen saying I timed out. Not sure if it's related. If I quit >>>>> the >>>>>> game it takes about 10 seconds before my connection to the net starts >>>>>> working properly again. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Ook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If I start Portal, I see it, and this is without the server browser >>>>>>> running. >>>>>>> If I start TF2 or HL2, I don't. It downloads at about 256k, which is >>>>>>> enough >>>>>>> to swamp a bottom end DSL connection. Upload is about 150k or so. >>>>>>> Curiosier >>>>>>> and curiosier.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Cc2iscooL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:30 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] So what is steam client uploading that is >>>>>>> killing/hammering clients connections? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's sending them your personal pornography collection. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On a more serious note, I haven't noticed this upload that people >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> talking about. Does it only happen at specific times? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Reading the forum posts listed it looks like they have their server >>>>> tab >>>>>>>> running. If you open the server tab and go to the internet, and if >>>>> all >>>>>>>> games are selected, it will try to hit all servers, sometimes >>>>> resulting >>>>>>>> in high upload/lots of connections which can screw up a router or >>>>>>>> low-bandwidth connection. This will also happen when you exit the >>>>> game >>>>>>>> if you've opened the server window. The solution is, if you open >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> server window, make sure it's not refreshing all servers or set it >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the recent or favorites tab, as it will stop the auto-refresh of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> internet tab. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nephyrin Zey wrote: >>>>>>>>> I too, an interested in what the client is sending to valve... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Neph >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Bikkies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Valve? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What are our steam clients uploading regarding this: >>>>>>>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7583482 >>>>>>>>>> and this >>>>>>>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=677491 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And when will it be fixed so i can actually use steam again... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Bikkies. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

