I have associated the name "Karl Weckstrom" with whine whine bitch moan.
DWN is 100% right. On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 18:51 -0500, Karl Weckstrom wrote: > Anyone can just roll out "something" to shut up the community. But sadly, > that doesn't solve our problem. > > Look, this is simple. > > There's a bug. > It's a SERIOUS bug that's doing ACTUAL HARM to game community server > perception. > Valve has not confirmed, denied or spoken to its existence, not even in an > effort to keep us informed. > That's it. > > Let's face it - for most, Perception is Reality. If people see servers > disconnect them on mapcycle, they are not going to place the blame on Valve. > They will place it on the server operator. > > It's actually a nice position for Valve to be in :) They can be 100% the > cause of the bug, but we, the server community get to take 100% of the blame. > > Ideally, Valve should say "YES, we know about it, and we're working on a > fix", then we, the community guys, could put nice little posts in our MOTD's > and Websites that explain the situation. Everyone wins. > > It's not like i'm going to take down my TF2 servers in disgust. It's a bug, > they happen, and we just want to know that it's being fixed or is at the very > least on Valve's radar. > > But to leave us all in the dark over this? It benefits absolutely no one. We > all lose. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jake E > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:13 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Time out at map change > > Hey, VALVe may not over great server support, but the free patches, updates, > and mod support are something, aren't they? > I agree the customer support is crap, though. > > But we can't take their great CUSTOMER support for granted. > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:05 PM, DontWannaName! > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Perhaps because SRCDS is free and not everyone with SRCDS owns the game. > > Therefore, they lose money supporting SRCDS. That is why the community > > provides it and has been doing it ever since CS was released. Now, back on > > topic? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

