I would suggest a separate members only forum section or even site with separate forums for server ops. On registration or application you can even have people type in the server IPs they use to verify that they host servers and make an age limit of some sort. Like require an answer to a question that newbs cant answer such as "where do you change your sv pure whitelist?" or something like that, probably not going to happen but you get the gyst. :)
________________________________ From: 1nsane <[email protected]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:09:12 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists Every retarded 13 year old can easily make an account on the forum. While most people are just too too stupid/scared of mailing lists. Thus, it acts as a very nice and automatic filter against stupidity. Not like it is foolproof, but those few retards who do accidentally stumble upon it won't stay for long (anyone remember those "OMFG STOP SPAMMING ME" threads?). And so most of the time we are left with helpful/useful "quality" responses. While on a forum - especially one as big steampowered (with a much wider array of idiots). Well... let's just say that the average quality of threads and responses will drop considerably. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Andrew Armstrong <[email protected]>wrote: > I think the forum system could work well if it is moderated appropriately. > > The main concern with this discussion seems to be that a lot of noise will > be generated from letting 'everyone' in to the forum. > > If someone wants to know how to setup a server; why not let them in and > find > out how to do so? > > The concern about it becoming too noisy or having the forum filled with > simple questions that could have been answered had the person read a > stickied FAQ could be avoided/reduced through good moderation and helpful > posters I think. > > - Plasma > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma > Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 5:05 PM > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists > > This is the biggest problem I have with the forums. Too many people on the > forums are trying to find out how to get srcds working or why > hldsupdatetool.exe doesn't work in Linux or how to get mani mod working. > This list is way beyond that and you hardly ever see that sort of thing > here. Finding the valuable information on this list would be difficult in > the forums because of all the sifting that would need to be done. > > Also, I like this list because everyone at Valve subscribed to it has to do > something with the emails (delete/read/set up rules to filter out bad > threads) whereas in the forums there is no guarantee someone at Valve even > saw my "OMG VALVE READ NOW: TIMEOUTS ON MAP CHANGE" thread. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SmOoThEm > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:08 PM > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists > > This list is one of the few resources admins have to combat the problems > and > exploits srcds servers attract. If you take this away then we are reduced > to 50 clicks of navigation around countless webpages filled with "How do I > install a dedicated server". Here there is no logins, no issues of mods > deleting our posts and everyone gets a fair word. Please valve, don't take > away our mailing list. I strongly dislike forums, logging in just for a > quick reply gets very old, opening my inbox to find what I need is just > what > we all need, hence our reason for being here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Stiehm > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:23 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists > > I love the fact that I can get updates from the list via email. It > looks like a lot of admins use blackbarrys or iPhones and the ability > to use that to interact with the list is crucial. > > Another nice thing about this list is that it's made up of mostly > mature server admins and not a lot of the general public so as bad as > it gets we don't have to deal with to many non-stop B.S. sessions. > > A section where you have to be a member would be a great idea. Now we > would just need some way to qualify someone that wants to join > > > > On Feb 9, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Burton Johnsey <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off > > migrating the mailing lists to the forums. > > > > The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits > > and features of the forums to further strengthen the community, > > giving us a central spot to gather feedback. The forum software is > > continually being updated by vBulletin and is flexible enough to > > also allow us to add our own features. > > > > To address a couple of specific concerns about the forums: > > > > - Membership - We can keep the membership in the DS forums private > > so that random forum users cannot post. > > - Moderation - We can assign moderators for specific forums. > > Moderators would be volunteers from the current mailing list > > participants. > > - Forum server performance - We have upgraded the system that runs > > the forums and we do not experience the lag we were experiencing in > > the past > > - The forums are accessible to more people than the mailing list. > > > > We want to make things better, not worse. We appreciate any further > > feedback you have to offer. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Burton Johnsey > > Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM > > Subject: Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists > > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] > > >, Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>, > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > > > > We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February > > 20th. > > > > After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one > > of the forums listed below. > > > > Windows server discussion should be conducted here: > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source) > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16 (Gldsrc) > > > > Linux server discussion should be conducted here: > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 (Source) > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 (Gldsrc) > > > > If you have not already done so, please register a forum > account<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/register.php > > >. > > > > NOTE: The mailing list archives will still be available for viewing. > > > > -BurtonJ > > Valve Software > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
