Also next time we find a crash exploit and someone posts the command that is used to crash severs it will be up for easy grabs by the public.
On Feb 10, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Alec Sanger <[email protected]> wrote: > > but these issues still do make it to the steam forums, and tons of > other forums around the internet. The difference is that the > individuals on this list all have a common goal - to keep their > servers running smoothly and to solve any issues as soon as > possible. If the forum stays how it is, it will continue to be > flooded by beginner questions that can be answered with a quick > google search. > > I do see the argument for moving it to the forums, but this little > community we have has a pretty narrow scope, and that allows us to > tackle issues more effectively. I also check the list from my phone. > If I have to go to the forums every time I want to see the status of > something, chances are I will rarely be able to visit. > > Thank you, > Alec Sanger > P: 248.941.3813 > F: 313.286.8945 > > > >> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:37:53 -0500 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> >> I agree with the sentiment that a mailing list is useless without >> valve reading it and/or responding. >> >> I also agree with moving it to a forum. While it's both good and >> bad for the same reason (everyone can see it), it's also a lot more >> exposing. I think big, glaring bugs should be seen for what they >> are. They shouldn't be kept within the confines of a mailing list >> that has a limited audience. Sometimes a little pressure from the >> internet at large is a good thing :) >> >> I think Valve is doing the right thing by putting a little pressure >> on themselves. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected] >> ] On Behalf Of Matt 'mole' Ashton >> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:33 AM >> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> >> Also, other forums have been available for posting on (srcds.com, >> alliedmodders) and people are still here at the mailing list >> instead. Moving >> to the steam forums won't make everything more central, it will >> separate it >> as people will make their own unofficial mailing lists and other >> avenues of >> information rather than flock to the steam forums. >> >> Like many other people have said in these responses, I don't want >> another >> forum or website to remember to read, and I suspect by getting rid >> of this >> mailing list and forcing everyone to use the forum then over time >> you would >> lose a lot of the current knowledgeable and useful responders here >> and just >> end up with more "not-so-useful" posters on the steam forums. So >> then server >> administrators have lost another good form of support and discussion. >> >> Mailing list is convenient, you always get it and have your own >> copy and >> don't have to respond if you don't want to. If you don't like a >> topic then >> you can just erase all e-mails with that subject. You can read on >> something >> that you hadn't thought of or just erase all e-mails. You also have >> the >> preview pane in your e-mail client so its easy to go through the >> threads at >> a glance. It's always "just there". >> With a forum you have to go out of your way, clicking back and >> forth between >> threads rather than a glance and slowly people would drop off and >> you'd get >> less of the really helpful people around. >> >> I think this list is great and should be left as-is. I only signed >> up just >> under a year ago and has since caused me to look out for more >> useful mailing >> lists in other things I do regularly. >> >> Matt >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zover >> Mirklo >> Sent: 10 February 2009 08:23 >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> >> No forums, no forum-mail gateways, no other unneeded stuff.. All is >> just fine with the mailing list - only needed information, almost >> only >> smart, mature people, easy to read, always available in my mailbox >> etc.. Oldschool stuff is the best. Speaking about moderators on steam >> forums from the mailing list members- its unsafe, their forum >> accounts >> could be hijacked (dont know how to say it in english), their >> passwords can be stolen etc and if some information will be lost on >> official steam forums or something else will happen who will take >> responsibility for this? Thats totally unneeded. I am happy you Valve >> reconsidered this (hopefully) and that you care what we all think >> about this..  I know you want to make things better but this is >> the case when there is really no need to change something about >> mailing list. >> Quoting O!KAK : I think best solutioin will be gateway (in both >> direction) to valve`s forum. >> Somthing like this - >> http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=92588 >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] mailto:[email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™: E-mail. 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