Well we had not updated because we used custom plugins that have not been
re-written for the new sourcemod versions. So we had to update the
sourcebans, and the server plugin to gain this feature which required us to
update to the latest sourcemod version. This was a major domino effect and a
lot of work to update admins etc, only to find out this morning they
reverted it back. I don't know which was worse, valve making the change
without telling anyone or changing it back the next day. Personally I
believe the reason they changed it back was because of tony and his post
about doing it ourselves or removing steam altogether from the ID's. I have
to say that was an awesome hack buddy. Props Tony Paloma 

I also noticed that in the announcement they had "reverted" the setting that
changed the rate cap but "updated" the servers to report steam id's
correctly. I guess they were trying to give us something back so we would
forget about the fact they had unbanned everyone from all servers in tf2,
dods and broke all mods for orangebox yesterday.


"Updated the engine to report SteamIDs using the Steam_0 format instead Of
Steam_1"

Alright a new update, I can't wait to check it.... hold on a second this
isn't new. Didn't we already have this option yesterday? :-p

-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:23 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

This has been said about SourceBans - and SourceMod 1.1.0 in general -
about a dozen times, but people are too worried about their 29,000
config files that need to be updated to pay attention.


On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 20:16 -0800, Steve wrote:
> The latest version of SourceBans ignores the first number of SteamIDs 
> anyway, so there is no need to edit the bans.
> 
> SmOoThEm wrote:
> > We have had an ongoing ban list for about 4 years now and it's up to
4331.
> > We updated scourcebans and did a lot of work on steamids last night only
to
> > find a email this morning saying valve reverted it back! Sigh: more
wasted
> > time and sleep on behalf of valve. Thanks for the tip and the homework
> > newlove, after we updated I just had to go looking for the feature! 
> >
> > Side note: in source bans, to enable this group banning feature you need
to
> > go to Admin Panel>Settings>Features>Enable Group Banning
> >
> > Here is our list for anyone that is interested
> > http://banlist.righttorule.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:00 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
> >
> > Since you decided to chime in here, anyone who wants the F7 ban list
> > will need to remove Karl if you want him to play on your servers. He had
> > some hacker that got posted here on the mailing list on his friends
> > list. "So he could block communication with him" he thinly rationalized,
> > even though you very obviously don't need to have someone on your
> > friend's list to block them.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:50 -0500, Karl Weckstrom wrote:
> >   
> >> We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I
> >>     
> > don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with
him on
> > this... 
> >   
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>     
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> >   
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM
> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
> >>
> >> Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on
a
> >> few of them though that I did not add:
> >>
> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
> >> Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an
> >> offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling "hacks"
to
> >> me for them.
> >>
> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol
> >> Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see
> >> anything in particularly wrong with this group.
> >>
> >> Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that
> >> nature?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would
> >>> ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking
> >>> around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite
> >>> useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of
> >>> known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to
> >>> dream about people being this dumb).
> >>>
> >>> I started off simply by searching for "hacking" and such and checking
> >>> admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones,
> >>> groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many
> >>> suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted
> >>> cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S
> >>> players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful
> >>> links if you find any. Peace out.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers
> >>>
> >>> And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a
> >>> fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these
> >>> maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last.
> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890
> >>>
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