We said this on IRC, I never said anything about VAC bans. That and I don't actually know who this guy is and I don't remember adding him to my friends list!
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 12:26 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: > Scanning 115 friends of id/msleeper for vacBanned status... > http://steamcommunity.com/id/LittleDogX > > lolz > > - Neph > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: > > Frankly, I ban based on a "guilty until proven innocent" standard. If > > you cheat in one game, you are likely to cheat in another. Once a > > cheater always a cheater. I could go on and on with cliches, but the > > bottom line is that I don't care if someone "innocent" was accidentally > > in one of these groups or accidentally friends with one of these people. > > People should know better, and being lenient is what lets these people > > thrive. > > > > Also, I didn't say I was going to ban Karl's spammy group. I said I > > banned him because he decided to be on the friends list of a hacker that > > got posted here. His group is "huge" because he - self admittedly - has > > some spambot that gets friend IDs from the other groups out there and > > spams invites to them. His group is artificially "huge", but that is a > > different subject altogether. > > > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:40 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: > >> Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and > >> if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to > >> be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem. > >> > >> > >> Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being > >> named "myg0t" or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning, > >> I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins > >> in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too > >> when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk > >> that someone "innocent" gets banned when banning friends. It could be > >> someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the > >> subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking > >> something bad would come out of it. > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I > >> > don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with > >> > him on this... > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [email protected] > >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of msleeper > >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM > >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > >> > > >> > Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a > >> > few of them though that I did not add: > >> > > >> > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa > >> > Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an > >> > offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling "hacks" to > >> > me for them. > >> > > >> > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol > >> > Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see > >> > anything in particularly wrong with this group. > >> > > >> > Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that > >> > nature? > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: > >> >> Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would > >> >> ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking > >> >> around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite > >> >> useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of > >> >> known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to > >> >> dream about people being this dumb). > >> >> > >> >> I started off simply by searching for "hacking" and such and checking > >> >> admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, > >> >> groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many > >> >> suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted > >> >> cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S > >> >> players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful > >> >> links if you find any. Peace out. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347 > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers > >> >> > >> >> And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a > >> >> fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these > >> >> maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last. > >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890 > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> >> please visit: > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
