Scanning 115 friends of id/msleeper for vacBanned status...
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- Neph

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote:
> Frankly, I ban based on a "guilty until proven innocent" standard. If
> you cheat in one game, you are likely to cheat in another. Once a
> cheater always a cheater. I could go on and on with cliches, but the
> bottom line is that I don't care if someone "innocent" was accidentally
> in one of these groups or accidentally friends with one of these people.
> People should know better, and being lenient is what lets these people
> thrive.
>
> Also, I didn't say I was going to ban Karl's spammy group. I said I
> banned him because he decided to be on the friends list of a hacker that
> got posted here. His group is "huge" because he - self admittedly - has
> some spambot that gets friend IDs from the other groups out there and
> spams invites to them. His group is artificially "huge", but that is a
> different subject altogether.
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:40 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote:
>> Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and
>> if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to
>> be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem.
>>
>>
>> Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being
>> named "myg0t" or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning,
>> I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins
>> in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too
>> when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk
>> that someone "innocent" gets banned when banning friends. It could be
>> someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the
>> subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking
>> something bad would come out of it.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I 
>> > don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him 
>> > on this...
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] 
>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of msleeper
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM
>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
>> >
>> > Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a
>> > few of them though that I did not add:
>> >
>> > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
>> > Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an
>> > offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling "hacks" to
>> > me for them.
>> >
>> > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol
>> > Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see
>> > anything in particularly wrong with this group.
>> >
>> > Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that
>> > nature?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote:
>> >> Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would
>> >> ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking
>> >> around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite
>> >> useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of
>> >> known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to
>> >> dream about people being this dumb).
>> >>
>> >> I started off simply by searching for "hacking" and such and checking
>> >> admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones,
>> >> groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many
>> >> suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted
>> >> cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S
>> >> players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful
>> >> links if you find any. Peace out.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers
>> >>
>> >> And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a
>> >> fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these
>> >> maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last.
>> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890
>> >>
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