I'll try to make this post worth something rather then the common
disapproval of msleepers backasswards method of achievement control.

I guess I don't appreciate the logic that msleeper is using (however
incorrect) I'm going to associate the logic of farming == cheating with the
logic of saying that a no clipping admin is hacking.

To no clip as an admin is no more considered to be 'hacking' anymore then
gaining achievements by way of following the instructions for the actions is
cheating. There is no outside influence used in gaining the achievements, no
special commands in use, no exploitable code being utilized.. So, I fail to
see how gaining achievements via farming can be considered to be an act of
cheating. But that has been said time and time again on this thread.

Anyway, banning people for farming is rather ridiculous, and banning them
from a list of servers is even more-so idiotic. If nothing else to be lost
then additional traffic. Wouldn't it be more fun to disallow the scout class
be used on the achievement server, or toggle drugs on join? I'm all for
jokes and 'haha' time but the only thing you're doing is hurting yourself, I
doubt you'd back out of your stance on the subject since that would make you
look objective, and not devoid of logic and reason. Honestly though, fuck if
I care.. More traffic for the rest of us.

If Valve cared about people farming achievements they could just take a
cross section of servers with hostnames that say 'achievement', 'farming' or
some similar commonly used word(s), monitor the in-game-names of the people
on those servers (It's all public information), match it with their SteamID,
and disable the achievement goals, or just disallow achievements from said
server all together. They already do something similar when sv_cheats is
enabled so I know the structure to accomplish achievement blocking on a
per-server basis is in place already.

I find that public achievement servers are generally just bug lights for
griefers, and bobble-headed know-nothings, so that is why I have taken the
liberty of password protecting ours and making it a personal server for
members, and we encourage members to give the password out to people they
are familiar with, etc.. etc..  It has worked very well, and it will thusly
be re-converted back into it's former glory of our custom maps server in a
couple days at which point I expect msleeper's epeen will go flaccid until
it rages once more in 90 to 120 days.

-Matt


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Patrick Shelley <[email protected]>wrote:

> done
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Clyde cide <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > Karl the best way to make him understand is go to the alied forums and
> his
> > plugin page http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402
> >
> > sign up and NUKE his Karma
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