Ok good, that means I can say You're the worst server admin ever.
And not have to follow up. On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, msleeper wrote: > I'm doing this because somebody needs to take a stand. People are numb > to the cheating, and nothing will every change when everyone is being > complacent about it. > > Lastly, you are missing the point of a honeypot. Look up the > definition: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing) > > The entire purpose of this is to make it looks like any other > achievement server, to make farmers feel "safe" by joining it. > > I'm not going to respond to the personal attacks. > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:35 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: >> If your server is full, and people are earning achievements then >> being banned from YOUR servers, you're being a hypocritical, >> selfish ass. >> >> You're running an achievement server that DOES let people farm >> achievements - they get one (maybe 2 or 3 depending on delay / >> simultaneous achievements) achievement (and probably progress >> towards others) before being banned. >> >> You claim your server is full, so it's turning out just as many >> achievements as other full achievement farming servers (maybe a >> little less due to overhead - since they have to go find another >> server afterward, etc.). >> >> You're banning these people from YOUR servers. You do provide a >> public list, but your list is NOT authoritative and I (and many >> other admins) would be hesitant to just import a list of 2000 >> bans. The vast majority of servers will NOT benefit from this list >> because most will never be aware of the list, let alone be able to >> import it easily (most servers are NOT running sourcebans/sourcemod >> with sql/etc.). >> >> You're playing vigilante because you think the game should be a >> certain way. That's fine, but you won't get much support for your >> "cause", especially with the way you are doing things. Simply >> setting up another server (instead of the honeypot) would be a far >> more beneficial to the TF2 community as a whole. >> >> The fact is there are a LOT of player who prefer to farm or unlock >> than to grind for achievements. >> I for one absolutely hate achievements, gamer cards, trophies, and >> whatever other crap is added to games to make them longer, force >> grinding, or promote social/web 2.0/e-peen crap. The mere fact >> that a GAME is intentionally turned into a chore to keep players >> playing is a slap in the face. It works though, because people >> feel they need that epic mount, that extra costume for Chun-Li, and >> the Ubersaw. >> >> It's a difference in opinion. You hate farmers, I don't care how >> people enjoy their game. You imposing your view of the game on >> your servers is fine, but I hope you realize that you're providing >> an achievement server which has let thousands of achievements be >> farmed, and that those farmers (who you claim to despise, >> hypocrite) are then set loose on the rest of the TF2 community >> (ass), while you and your servers are walled off from them (selfish). >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:07:22 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot >>> >>> My server has been full since the moment I set it up. There is a >>> delay >>> between achievement earned and banning, so the farmers don't know >>> what >>> is going on. My server looks 100% like any other farming server. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:01 +0100, Bengt Rosenberger wrote: >>>> Great, I gonna install that on my 24/7 achievement farming >>>> server... Or >>>> wait... No, I won't. >>>> Have fun with an empty server. >>>> >>>> Stuff like this encourages me to open up another farming server... >>>> >>>> msleeper schrieb: >>>>> I have written a honeypot plugin for SourceMod that will autoban >>>>> anyone >>>>> who earns an achievement in the server. If there is any other >>>>> admins out >>>>> there who think that complacency towards farming needs to end, >>>>> this is >>>>> step one. >>>>> >>>>> I have been running this since the moment the Scout update came >>>>> out last >>>>> night and, at time of writing this, 1890 farmers have been >>>>> caught and >>>>> stopped. >>>>> >>>>> The plugin is here: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402 >>>>> My publicly available list of farmers is here: >>>>> http://www.msleeper.com/tf2-achievement-farmers.html >>>>> >>>>> I'm really not interested in mucking up the list with personal >>>>> opinions >>>>> about whether or not farming is right, or honeypotting farmers >>>>> is wrong, >>>>> but if you want to discuss you can always join IRC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my honeypot >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. >> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
