good job msleeper good idea. keep working on it
2009/2/25 Darren Gordon <[email protected]> > Ok good, that means I can say > > You're the worst server admin ever. > > > And not have to follow up. > > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, msleeper wrote: > > > I'm doing this because somebody needs to take a stand. People are numb > > to the cheating, and nothing will every change when everyone is being > > complacent about it. > > > > Lastly, you are missing the point of a honeypot. Look up the > > definition: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29> > > > > The entire purpose of this is to make it looks like any other > > achievement server, to make farmers feel "safe" by joining it. > > > > I'm not going to respond to the personal attacks. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:35 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > >> If your server is full, and people are earning achievements then > >> being banned from YOUR servers, you're being a hypocritical, > >> selfish ass. > >> > >> You're running an achievement server that DOES let people farm > >> achievements - they get one (maybe 2 or 3 depending on delay / > >> simultaneous achievements) achievement (and probably progress > >> towards others) before being banned. > >> > >> You claim your server is full, so it's turning out just as many > >> achievements as other full achievement farming servers (maybe a > >> little less due to overhead - since they have to go find another > >> server afterward, etc.). > >> > >> You're banning these people from YOUR servers. You do provide a > >> public list, but your list is NOT authoritative and I (and many > >> other admins) would be hesitant to just import a list of 2000 > >> bans. The vast majority of servers will NOT benefit from this list > >> because most will never be aware of the list, let alone be able to > >> import it easily (most servers are NOT running sourcebans/sourcemod > >> with sql/etc.). > >> > >> You're playing vigilante because you think the game should be a > >> certain way. That's fine, but you won't get much support for your > >> "cause", especially with the way you are doing things. Simply > >> setting up another server (instead of the honeypot) would be a far > >> more beneficial to the TF2 community as a whole. > >> > >> The fact is there are a LOT of player who prefer to farm or unlock > >> than to grind for achievements. > >> I for one absolutely hate achievements, gamer cards, trophies, and > >> whatever other crap is added to games to make them longer, force > >> grinding, or promote social/web 2.0/e-peen crap. The mere fact > >> that a GAME is intentionally turned into a chore to keep players > >> playing is a slap in the face. It works though, because people > >> feel they need that epic mount, that extra costume for Chun-Li, and > >> the Ubersaw. > >> > >> It's a difference in opinion. You hate farmers, I don't care how > >> people enjoy their game. You imposing your view of the game on > >> your servers is fine, but I hope you realize that you're providing > >> an achievement server which has let thousands of achievements be > >> farmed, and that those farmers (who you claim to despise, > >> hypocrite) are then set loose on the rest of the TF2 community > >> (ass), while you and your servers are walled off from them (selfish). > >> > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:07:22 -0500 > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > >>> > >>> My server has been full since the moment I set it up. There is a > >>> delay > >>> between achievement earned and banning, so the farmers don't know > >>> what > >>> is going on. My server looks 100% like any other farming server. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:01 +0100, Bengt Rosenberger wrote: > >>>> Great, I gonna install that on my 24/7 achievement farming > >>>> server... Or > >>>> wait... No, I won't. > >>>> Have fun with an empty server. > >>>> > >>>> Stuff like this encourages me to open up another farming server... > >>>> > >>>> msleeper schrieb: > >>>>> I have written a honeypot plugin for SourceMod that will autoban > >>>>> anyone > >>>>> who earns an achievement in the server. If there is any other > >>>>> admins out > >>>>> there who think that complacency towards farming needs to end, > >>>>> this is > >>>>> step one. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have been running this since the moment the Scout update came > >>>>> out last > >>>>> night and, at time of writing this, 1890 farmers have been > >>>>> caught and > >>>>> stopped. > >>>>> > >>>>> The plugin is here: > http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402 > >>>>> My publicly available list of farmers is here: > >>>>> http://www.msleeper.com/tf2-achievement-farmers.html > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm really not interested in mucking up the list with personal > >>>>> opinions > >>>>> about whether or not farming is right, or honeypotting farmers > >>>>> is wrong, > >>>>> but if you want to discuss you can always join IRC. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my honeypot > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>> archives, please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. > >> > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
