If it would be for some ban list that is authoritive for like 100+ servers than this might a nice thing to run... but still not against farming. But I also fail to see the point in doing this if you keep the ban list it produces just to yourselves. Because I don't recall reading you saying that you're going to put your list up for usage on other servers.
I gave up on the 1.000.000 healing and 1.000.000 fire damage for example. Those are impossible to make in normal serverplay. I 'farmed' a couple of achievements too.... took me about 3 days (8 hours in total during the weekend) and I still wasn't really getting closer to the 1.000.000 healing/fire. Although I did get 15 achievements... big deal considering there are about 134 to earn. PS "Sent from my honeypot" That only makes me want to lookup your server IP and avoid it like the plague ~_^ MeZelf -----Original Message----- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: woensdag 25 februari 2009 22:55 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot good job msleeper good idea. keep working on it 2009/2/25 Darren Gordon <dar...@spec907.net> > Ok good, that means I can say > > You're the worst server admin ever. > > > And not have to follow up. > > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, msleeper wrote: > > > I'm doing this because somebody needs to take a stand. People are > > numb to the cheating, and nothing will every change when everyone is > > being complacent about it. > > > > Lastly, you are missing the point of a honeypot. Look up the > > definition: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing)<http://en.wikipedi > > a.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29> > > > > The entire purpose of this is to make it looks like any other > > achievement server, to make farmers feel "safe" by joining it. > > > > I'm not going to respond to the personal attacks. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:35 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > >> If your server is full, and people are earning achievements then > >> being banned from YOUR servers, you're being a hypocritical, > >> selfish ass. > >> > >> You're running an achievement server that DOES let people farm > >> achievements - they get one (maybe 2 or 3 depending on delay / > >> simultaneous achievements) achievement (and probably progress > >> towards others) before being banned. > >> > >> You claim your server is full, so it's turning out just as many > >> achievements as other full achievement farming servers (maybe a > >> little less due to overhead - since they have to go find another > >> server afterward, etc.). > >> > >> You're banning these people from YOUR servers. You do provide a > >> public list, but your list is NOT authoritative and I (and many > >> other admins) would be hesitant to just import a list of 2000 bans. > >> The vast majority of servers will NOT benefit from this list > >> because most will never be aware of the list, let alone be able to > >> import it easily (most servers are NOT running sourcebans/sourcemod > >> with sql/etc.). > >> > >> You're playing vigilante because you think the game should be a > >> certain way. That's fine, but you won't get much support for your > >> "cause", especially with the way you are doing things. Simply > >> setting up another server (instead of the honeypot) would be a far > >> more beneficial to the TF2 community as a whole. > >> > >> The fact is there are a LOT of player who prefer to farm or unlock > >> than to grind for achievements. > >> I for one absolutely hate achievements, gamer cards, trophies, and > >> whatever other crap is added to games to make them longer, force > >> grinding, or promote social/web 2.0/e-peen crap. The mere fact > >> that a GAME is intentionally turned into a chore to keep players > >> playing is a slap in the face. It works though, because people > >> feel they need that epic mount, that extra costume for Chun-Li, and > >> the Ubersaw. > >> > >> It's a difference in opinion. You hate farmers, I don't care how > >> people enjoy their game. You imposing your view of the game on > >> your servers is fine, but I hope you realize that you're providing > >> an achievement server which has let thousands of achievements be > >> farmed, and that those farmers (who you claim to despise, > >> hypocrite) are then set loose on the rest of the TF2 community > >> (ass), while you and your servers are walled off from them (selfish). > >> > >>> From: mslee...@cyberwurx.com > >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:07:22 -0500 > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > >>> > >>> My server has been full since the moment I set it up. There is a > >>> delay between achievement earned and banning, so the farmers don't > >>> know what is going on. My server looks 100% like any other farming > >>> server. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:01 +0100, Bengt Rosenberger wrote: > >>>> Great, I gonna install that on my 24/7 achievement farming > >>>> server... Or wait... No, I won't. > >>>> Have fun with an empty server. > >>>> > >>>> Stuff like this encourages me to open up another farming server... > >>>> > >>>> msleeper schrieb: > >>>>> I have written a honeypot plugin for SourceMod that will autoban > >>>>> anyone who earns an achievement in the server. If there is any > >>>>> other admins out there who think that complacency towards > >>>>> farming needs to end, this is step one. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have been running this since the moment the Scout update came > >>>>> out last night and, at time of writing this, 1890 farmers have > >>>>> been caught and stopped. > >>>>> > >>>>> The plugin is here: > http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=86402 > >>>>> My publicly available list of farmers is here: > >>>>> http://www.msleeper.com/tf2-achievement-farmers.html > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm really not interested in mucking up the list with personal > >>>>> opinions about whether or not farming is right, or honeypotting > >>>>> farmers is wrong, but if you want to discuss you can always join > >>>>> IRC. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my honeypot _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
