The people you have at the top are representative of the type of outfit you run.
If you're stuck with having a moron at the top because he provides free hosting or what not, then you have my deepest sympathies. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of f0rkz [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:27 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot How about we keep f7 out of this. This was an uncoordinated event not discussed with upper management. f0rkz f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Chris wrote: > So, I didn't know what clan msleeper was running but thought there > would be > loads of people complaining on his forums, and right enough in his > bans > section loads of people are complaining... First thread I saw this > reply > from one of his "TF2 Division" members: > > "Or just do it on another non F7 server like everyone else who farms > achievements does and don't fall for msleepers little trap next > time. " > > I think you should ban this guy msleeper, not only does he play on > your > server but he's one of your clan members in "TF2 Division" and he's > condones > and obviously is involved in the highly illicit practice of > farming, and > advising those who play on your servers to farm elsewhere! > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Blood Letter > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> This is not some noble cause that warrants beating your own drum in a >> one-man parade. >> >> >> >> What you're doing is the equivalent of a child offering to share >> their >> toys with another child, then taking them away and yelling "NO! >> You're >> not allowed to play with my toys anymore! And my friends all hate >> you >> too! Hey everyone! Isn't this person stupid! Don't ever play with >> him because he's stupid!" >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:16:35 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot >>> >>> I am not trying to win anything. Farming is a polarized topic, where >>> people feel agree it is wrong, or feel it is fine and isn't >>> against the >>> rules. Like all server communities, it is up to individual server >>> admins >>> to decide what they want to be allowed and not to be allowed. Am I >>> saying that every single admin or player out there needs to feel the >>> same way I do? Of course not. >>> >>> I'm not going to say that people need to feel the same way I feel >>> about >>> farming, either. It's not "off base" and it's not the way that you >>> feel, >>> so awesome. Don't run it, and enjoy farmers on your servers. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:54 -0600, CLAN RCR wrote: >>>> msleeper, you are entirely missing the principal people are using >>>> to >> judge >>>> your logic/decision to base your bans off of. >>>> >>>> Until you decide to at least consider the fact that you might >>>> possibly >> be >>>> off base, weather or not you wrote a plugin to do this or that is a >> moot >>>> point. The quality or usability of the plugin isn't what is >>>> behind the >>>> driving force to resist you, it is the logic that farming is >>>> somehow a >>>> banable offence that people are disagreeing with, and until you >> consider the >>>> other arguements logically you will never win the arguement. >>>> >>>> -Matt >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey look I can crosspost to AlliedModders too. FYI my Karma is >>>>> back >> up >>>>> to where it was before, not like I care too much. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think you're missing the point. Nobody is forcing you to use the >>>>> plugin, or enforce the banlist I have up. I am being called >>>>> self-righteous, but then being flamed and -Karma'd for something >>>>> that >>>>> nobody is being held at gun point to use. >>>>> >>>>> If you don't like it, don't use it. End of story. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. >> >> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
