Ooh, that'd be pretty cool. There's a whole medal ranking system, and every time you get x achievements, your medal is upgraded (and your characters actually wear the medals).
Jake Skenna wrote: > I really wish awards for achievements were some sort of image of a medal. > Not something that affects the game. > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Patrick Shelley <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> I really like 4 >> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> Not completely, as people could still earn the achievements to feel like >>> they're doing something which would mean four things. >>> >>> 1.) Not many people would use unlockers because they wouldn't need to. >>> 2.) People who don't play often or who don't want to get achievements >>> >> just >> >>> to be on a level field with everyone else won't have to. >>> 3.) People won't have to farm achievements and waste time unless for some >>> reason they want to at that point. >>> 4.) People who do want to have the weapons tied to achievements have the >>> option of keeping it that way, but maybe there's a reward or another >>> achievement that you have for *not* setting your weapons to be used for >>> >> all >> >>> achievements. >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:27 AM, tgnwells <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> What's the point of having the weapons tied to the achievements *at >>>> >> all* >> >>>> if you can just go into the options menu and unlock them with one mouse >>>> click? >>>> >>>> I feel there's some compromise that could be had here, but that just >>>> makes the whole system pointless. >>>> >>>> Clyde cide wrote: >>>> >>>>> I reall do like Cc2iscool's idea. It is common ground for people on >>>>> >>> both >>> >>>>> sides of the argument to come together on >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> >>>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>>> Maybe a better system would be to let the player decide. >>>>>> >>>>>> For instance...have an optional interface. >>>>>> >>>>>> If they change it to giving all weapons without achievements, it >>>>>> >> will >> >>>> give >>>> >>>>>> them all the weapons and the achievements could be for a more "fun" >>>>>> purpose. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or for the players that like getting achievements, they could have >>>>>> >> the >> >>>>>> option of disabling the weapons until they get enough achievements >>>>>> >> for >> >>>> the >>>> >>>>>> actual milestones. >>>>>> >>>>>> Honestly either way people are going to get the weapons, whether >>>>>> >> they >> >>>>>> "cheat" and farm them or not...so why not let the player decide what >>>>>> >>>> they >>>> >>>>>> want to do? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> IMO, they should just do away with the unlockables and make the new >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> weapons >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everybody gets them anyway, one way or another, so it's a little >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> pointless. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> All you end up with is a corrupt achievements system where the >>>>>>> >>> majority >>> >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> players farmed the achievements, solely to get the unlocks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jake >>>>>>> >>> Skenna >>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:55 PM >>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Moving on >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like getting them too, but the way the game has turned with >>>>>>> >> people >> >>>>>>> banning >>>>>>> because of achievements or people downloading programs to get >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> achievements >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> is sort of ridiculous. I used to have the opposite opinion, but >>>>>>> >> after >> >>>> the >>>> >>>>>>> fourth class update I wish they would just remove unlockables and >>>>>>> >>> make >>> >>>>>> them >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> available from the start now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, matan nov <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like doing achievements (not grinding or using plugins and such, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> working >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> towards them) to get the weapons, the big >>>>>>>> >> scout/heavy/medic/pyro/etc >> >>>>>> boom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> only lasts a few days and everything goes back to normal, plus an >>>>>>>> >>>> extra >>>> >>>>>>>> scout or two per team for the next few weeks, not that terrible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Brent Veal < >>>>>>>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree that having the new weapons available right away does >>>>>>>>> >> make >> >>>>>>> sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Less grinding is better, and the overload of one class would end >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> sooner. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not >>>>>>>>> to mention that new players would no longer be alienated by not >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> having >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the different weapons to try out right away. Although that's just >>>>>>>>> >>> my >>> >>>>>>>>> opinion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Clyde cide < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As we have all seen the Achievements locked to weapons is a bit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> divisive >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the community. I personally would like to see a split from this >>>>>>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the weapons straight out plus you have a nice amount of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> achievements >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> actually mean something other than Ive got to get these to get >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> those >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> weapons. I play DODS this game has 50 or so achievements that >>>>>>>>>> >> are >> >>>>>> not >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> tied >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to weapons, imho its more fun and means more to get these >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> achievements. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Takes less of the pressure off to be able to compete with every >>>>>>>>>> >>> one >>> >>>>>>>> else. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If we moved away from the unlockables and to just achievements >>>>>>>>>> >>> and >>> >>>>>>>>>> weapons, >>>>>>>>>> we would also kill the farming servers, the "unlocker", moronic >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> plugins, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> would also cut down on all 1 class all the time as seen in >>>>>>>>>> every previous update. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I feel that now is the right time to have a serious discussion >>>>>>>>>> >> on >> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> matter in light of F7 clans honey pot plugin and the drama its >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> caused. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> >> archives, >> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> >> archives, >> >>>> please visit: >>>> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

