I reall do like Cc2iscool's idea. It is common ground for people on both sides of the argument to come together on
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe a better system would be to let the player decide. > > For instance...have an optional interface. > > If they change it to giving all weapons without achievements, it will give > them all the weapons and the achievements could be for a more "fun" > purpose. > > Or for the players that like getting achievements, they could have the > option of disabling the weapons until they get enough achievements for the > actual milestones. > > Honestly either way people are going to get the weapons, whether they > "cheat" and farm them or not...so why not let the player decide what they > want to do? > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > IMO, they should just do away with the unlockables and make the new > weapons > > available. > > > > Everybody gets them anyway, one way or another, so it's a little > pointless. > > > > All you end up with is a corrupt achievements system where the majority > of > > players farmed the achievements, solely to get the unlocks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jake Skenna > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:55 PM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Moving on > > > > I like getting them too, but the way the game has turned with people > > banning > > because of achievements or people downloading programs to get > achievements > > is sort of ridiculous. I used to have the opposite opinion, but after the > > fourth class update I wish they would just remove unlockables and make > them > > available from the start now. > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, matan nov <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I like doing achievements (not grinding or using plugins and such, > > working > > > towards them) to get the weapons, the big scout/heavy/medic/pyro/etc > boom > > > only lasts a few days and everything goes back to normal, plus an extra > > > scout or two per team for the next few weeks, not that terrible. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Brent Veal <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I agree that having the new weapons available right away does make > > sense. > > > > Less grinding is better, and the overload of one class would end > > sooner. > > > > Not > > > > to mention that new players would no longer be alienated by not > having > > > all > > > > the different weapons to try out right away. Although that's just my > > > > opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Clyde cide < > > > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > As we have all seen the Achievements locked to weapons is a bit > > > divisive > > > > in > > > > > the community. I personally would like to see a split from this to > > you > > > > get > > > > > the weapons straight out plus you have a nice amount of > achievements > > > that > > > > > actually mean something other than Ive got to get these to get > those > > > > > weapons. I play DODS this game has 50 or so achievements that are > not > > > > tied > > > > > to weapons, imho its more fun and means more to get these > > achievements. > > > > > Takes less of the pressure off to be able to compete with every one > > > else. > > > > > > > > > > If we moved away from the unlockables and to just achievements and > > > > > weapons, > > > > > we would also kill the farming servers, the "unlocker", moronic > > > plugins, > > > > > and > > > > > would also cut down on all 1 class all the time as seen in > > > > > every previous update. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel that now is the right time to have a serious discussion on > > the > > > > > matter in light of F7 clans honey pot plugin and the drama its > > caused. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
