I really like 4 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not completely, as people could still earn the achievements to feel like > they're doing something which would mean four things. > > 1.) Not many people would use unlockers because they wouldn't need to. > 2.) People who don't play often or who don't want to get achievements just > to be on a level field with everyone else won't have to. > 3.) People won't have to farm achievements and waste time unless for some > reason they want to at that point. > 4.) People who do want to have the weapons tied to achievements have the > option of keeping it that way, but maybe there's a reward or another > achievement that you have for *not* setting your weapons to be used for all > achievements. > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:27 AM, tgnwells <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What's the point of having the weapons tied to the achievements *at all* > > if you can just go into the options menu and unlock them with one mouse > > click? > > > > I feel there's some compromise that could be had here, but that just > > makes the whole system pointless. > > > > Clyde cide wrote: > > > I reall do like Cc2iscool's idea. It is common ground for people on > both > > > sides of the argument to come together on > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Maybe a better system would be to let the player decide. > > >> > > >> For instance...have an optional interface. > > >> > > >> If they change it to giving all weapons without achievements, it will > > give > > >> them all the weapons and the achievements could be for a more "fun" > > >> purpose. > > >> > > >> Or for the players that like getting achievements, they could have the > > >> option of disabling the weapons until they get enough achievements for > > the > > >> actual milestones. > > >> > > >> Honestly either way people are going to get the weapons, whether they > > >> "cheat" and farm them or not...so why not let the player decide what > > they > > >> want to do? > > >> > > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < > > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> IMO, they should just do away with the unlockables and make the new > > >>> > > >> weapons > > >> > > >>> available. > > >>> > > >>> Everybody gets them anyway, one way or another, so it's a little > > >>> > > >> pointless. > > >> > > >>> All you end up with is a corrupt achievements system where the > majority > > >>> > > >> of > > >> > > >>> players farmed the achievements, solely to get the unlocks. > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: [email protected] > > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jake > Skenna > > >>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:55 PM > > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Moving on > > >>> > > >>> I like getting them too, but the way the game has turned with people > > >>> banning > > >>> because of achievements or people downloading programs to get > > >>> > > >> achievements > > >> > > >>> is sort of ridiculous. I used to have the opposite opinion, but after > > the > > >>> fourth class update I wish they would just remove unlockables and > make > > >>> > > >> them > > >> > > >>> available from the start now. > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, matan nov <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> I like doing achievements (not grinding or using plugins and such, > > >>>> > > >>> working > > >>> > > >>>> towards them) to get the weapons, the big scout/heavy/medic/pyro/etc > > >>>> > > >> boom > > >> > > >>>> only lasts a few days and everything goes back to normal, plus an > > extra > > >>>> scout or two per team for the next few weeks, not that terrible. > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Brent Veal < > [email protected] > > >>>> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I agree that having the new weapons available right away does make > > >>>>> > > >>> sense. > > >>> > > >>>>> Less grinding is better, and the overload of one class would end > > >>>>> > > >>> sooner. > > >>> > > >>>>> Not > > >>>>> to mention that new players would no longer be alienated by not > > >>>>> > > >> having > > >> > > >>>> all > > >>>> > > >>>>> the different weapons to try out right away. Although that's just > my > > >>>>> opinion. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Clyde cide < > > >>>>> > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> As we have all seen the Achievements locked to weapons is a bit > > >>>>>> > > >>>> divisive > > >>>> > > >>>>> in > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> the community. I personally would like to see a split from this to > > >>>>>> > > >>> you > > >>> > > >>>>> get > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> the weapons straight out plus you have a nice amount of > > >>>>>> > > >> achievements > > >> > > >>>> that > > >>>> > > >>>>>> actually mean something other than Ive got to get these to get > > >>>>>> > > >> those > > >> > > >>>>>> weapons. I play DODS this game has 50 or so achievements that are > > >>>>>> > > >> not > > >> > > >>>>> tied > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> to weapons, imho its more fun and means more to get these > > >>>>>> > > >>> achievements. > > >>> > > >>>>>> Takes less of the pressure off to be able to compete with every > one > > >>>>>> > > >>>> else. > > >>>> > > >>>>>> If we moved away from the unlockables and to just achievements > and > > >>>>>> weapons, > > >>>>>> we would also kill the farming servers, the "unlocker", moronic > > >>>>>> > > >>>> plugins, > > >>>> > > >>>>>> and > > >>>>>> would also cut down on all 1 class all the time as seen in > > >>>>>> every previous update. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I feel that now is the right time to have a serious discussion on > > >>>>>> > > >>> the > > >>> > > >>>>>> matter in light of F7 clans honey pot plugin and the drama its > > >>>>>> > > >>> caused. > > >>> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>>>>> > > >>> archives, > > >>> > > >>>>>> please visit: > > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>>>> > > >> archives, > > >> > > >>>>> please visit: > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>>> please visit: > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>> please visit: > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>> please visit: > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
