I really wish awards for achievements were some sort of image of a medal. Not something that affects the game.
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Patrick Shelley <[email protected]>wrote: > I really like 4 > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Not completely, as people could still earn the achievements to feel like > > they're doing something which would mean four things. > > > > 1.) Not many people would use unlockers because they wouldn't need to. > > 2.) People who don't play often or who don't want to get achievements > just > > to be on a level field with everyone else won't have to. > > 3.) People won't have to farm achievements and waste time unless for some > > reason they want to at that point. > > 4.) People who do want to have the weapons tied to achievements have the > > option of keeping it that way, but maybe there's a reward or another > > achievement that you have for *not* setting your weapons to be used for > all > > achievements. > > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:27 AM, tgnwells <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > What's the point of having the weapons tied to the achievements *at > all* > > > if you can just go into the options menu and unlock them with one mouse > > > click? > > > > > > I feel there's some compromise that could be had here, but that just > > > makes the whole system pointless. > > > > > > Clyde cide wrote: > > > > I reall do like Cc2iscool's idea. It is common ground for people on > > both > > > > sides of the argument to come together on > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Maybe a better system would be to let the player decide. > > > >> > > > >> For instance...have an optional interface. > > > >> > > > >> If they change it to giving all weapons without achievements, it > will > > > give > > > >> them all the weapons and the achievements could be for a more "fun" > > > >> purpose. > > > >> > > > >> Or for the players that like getting achievements, they could have > the > > > >> option of disabling the weapons until they get enough achievements > for > > > the > > > >> actual milestones. > > > >> > > > >> Honestly either way people are going to get the weapons, whether > they > > > >> "cheat" and farm them or not...so why not let the player decide what > > > they > > > >> want to do? > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < > > > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> IMO, they should just do away with the unlockables and make the new > > > >>> > > > >> weapons > > > >> > > > >>> available. > > > >>> > > > >>> Everybody gets them anyway, one way or another, so it's a little > > > >>> > > > >> pointless. > > > >> > > > >>> All you end up with is a corrupt achievements system where the > > majority > > > >>> > > > >> of > > > >> > > > >>> players farmed the achievements, solely to get the unlocks. > > > >>> > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>> From: [email protected] > > > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jake > > Skenna > > > >>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:55 PM > > > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Moving on > > > >>> > > > >>> I like getting them too, but the way the game has turned with > people > > > >>> banning > > > >>> because of achievements or people downloading programs to get > > > >>> > > > >> achievements > > > >> > > > >>> is sort of ridiculous. I used to have the opposite opinion, but > after > > > the > > > >>> fourth class update I wish they would just remove unlockables and > > make > > > >>> > > > >> them > > > >> > > > >>> available from the start now. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, matan nov <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> I like doing achievements (not grinding or using plugins and such, > > > >>>> > > > >>> working > > > >>> > > > >>>> towards them) to get the weapons, the big > scout/heavy/medic/pyro/etc > > > >>>> > > > >> boom > > > >> > > > >>>> only lasts a few days and everything goes back to normal, plus an > > > extra > > > >>>> scout or two per team for the next few weeks, not that terrible. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Brent Veal < > > [email protected] > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I agree that having the new weapons available right away does > make > > > >>>>> > > > >>> sense. > > > >>> > > > >>>>> Less grinding is better, and the overload of one class would end > > > >>>>> > > > >>> sooner. > > > >>> > > > >>>>> Not > > > >>>>> to mention that new players would no longer be alienated by not > > > >>>>> > > > >> having > > > >> > > > >>>> all > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> the different weapons to try out right away. Although that's just > > my > > > >>>>> opinion. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Clyde cide < > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> As we have all seen the Achievements locked to weapons is a bit > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> divisive > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> in > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> the community. I personally would like to see a split from this > to > > > >>>>>> > > > >>> you > > > >>> > > > >>>>> get > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> the weapons straight out plus you have a nice amount of > > > >>>>>> > > > >> achievements > > > >> > > > >>>> that > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> actually mean something other than Ive got to get these to get > > > >>>>>> > > > >> those > > > >> > > > >>>>>> weapons. I play DODS this game has 50 or so achievements that > are > > > >>>>>> > > > >> not > > > >> > > > >>>>> tied > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> to weapons, imho its more fun and means more to get these > > > >>>>>> > > > >>> achievements. > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> Takes less of the pressure off to be able to compete with every > > one > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> else. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> If we moved away from the unlockables and to just achievements > > and > > > >>>>>> weapons, > > > >>>>>> we would also kill the farming servers, the "unlocker", moronic > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> plugins, > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> and > > > >>>>>> would also cut down on all 1 class all the time as seen in > > > >>>>>> every previous update. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I feel that now is the right time to have a serious discussion > on > > > >>>>>> > > > >>> the > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> matter in light of F7 clans honey pot plugin and the drama its > > > >>>>>> > > > >>> caused. > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >>>>>> > > > >>> archives, > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >>>>> > > > >> archives, > > > >> > > > >>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >>>> please visit: > > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >>> please visit: > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >>> please visit: > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > >> please visit: > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >> > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
