"We want you to still be able to jump sentryguns". I'd opt for just about anything that reduces the sentry-humping lameness.
> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:42:08 +0000 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Duck in Midair "Fix" Needs to be Reverted or Retooled > > What I love is how, despite the OP in that forum thread quoting the thing > that says it's to do with the hitbox changes, not the midair duck changes, > so so many of the replies are about how they "didn't test the midair thing" > or "need to let you duck twice in midair" or something equally unrelated. > > (I assume the OP on hlds wasn't aware of the true source of the issue, which > is fair enough) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:hlds- > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of msleeper > > Sent: 06 March 2009 02:22 > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Duck in Midair "Fix" Needs to be Reverted or > > Retooled > > > > Followed by 3 pages of people saying how that isn't good enough. > > > > Gotta love Valve game "fans"! > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 18:17 -0800, Ryan Mannion wrote: > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=816875 > > > > > > Quote: > > > === > > > Crouch jump will be fixed, <3 u valve > > > I sent an e-mail to Robin Walker and, being the ninja that he is, he > > > replied within minutes. > > > > > > The reply stated > > > > > > "It was a side effect of the changes we made to ensure the bounding > > > box more correctly matched the player's animation, so that hitboxes > > > were correct. We want you to still be able to jump sentryguns, so > > > we'll be doing something about it. > > > > > > Robin." > > > > > > This is a thank you thread, as well as a great relief (I'm sure) to > > > many spies and engies everywhere. > > > === > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Ryan Mannion <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > The jump timing has been altered somehow, though. A few examples: > > > > > > > > * Engineers cannot jump on top of their sentries > > > > * On cp_badlands, you can no longer jump on top of the crates on > > the > > > > center point trains > > > > * On pl_frontier_b2, in BLU spawn, you can no longer jump from the > > > > track area to the train platform > > > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> You can duck ONCE in midair. > > > >> > > > >> On 3/5/09, Ryan Mannion <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> The duck in midair change makes it impossible to jump on top of > > > >>> crates, ledges, and many other map elements that are meant to be > > > >>> reachable by this method. These aren't exploitable areas - just > > normal > > > >>> parts of maps that take advantage of the delay involved in a > > > >>> crouch-jump as a tradeoff to using that path/area. Please revert > > this > > > >>> change or permit it to be reverted. > > > >>> > > > >>> Ryan > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >>> please visit: > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Sent from my mobile device > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _________________________________________________________________ Windows Liveā¢: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

