And you can have more than one chip on one card. The GTX 295 has 2x295 (590) processing cores. However its $600.
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Ook <[email protected]> wrote: > GPU processors are very limited and are designed for specific tasks that > benefit from massive parallelism. That is why you can put 256 of them on a > single chip - they are small, fast, but limited. You can't cram that many > real CPUs on a chip - A while ago Sun put 8 risc cpus on a single chip, but > the risc architecture is simple enough that you can get away with that. You > couldn't do that with pentiums, cores, athlons, or phenoms - not yet > anyhow, > and you will never put 256 of them on a single chip. > > It's funny in a way - we went from the cisc to the risc architecture so we > could inplement a pipeline and give us some instruction level paralellism, > then we went back to cisc with huge pipelines (your pentiums, etc.) because > Intel thought that the longer pipelines would give us better performance in > the long run (it didn't, really - which is why AMD kicked Intels butt for > so > long), and now here we are going back again to simple cpus with shorter > pipelines and simple instruction sets, only this time in massive parallel. > Back and forth, back and forth. Kinda like going from the dumb terminal to > the PC and then back to the dumb browser... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Gottlieb" <[email protected]> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any benefits with a graphics card? > > > > Are you trying to imply that you can visualize a PC on a GPU? GPUs > > and Processors work very differently. I don't think that would be > > possible. If it is, I don't think it would be very powerful. > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Jake E <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Virtualize? > >> > >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Olly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Source isn't CUDA compatable :P - So no tesla yet > >>> > >>> 2009/5/13 Jake E <[email protected]> > >>> > >>> > You could buy a $50000000 Tesla computer to solve it for you. > >>> > > >>> > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Ook <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > I think it's 128 bit AES. Good luck with that one heheh... > >>> > > > >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > From: "1nsane" <[email protected]> > >>> > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >>> > > <[email protected]> > >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:04 PM > >>> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any benefits with a graphics card? > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > And what sort of encryption does winrar use? I seem to have > >>> > > > misplaced > >>> a > >>> > > > password for a semi important archive. That was 3 years ago... > >>> > > > Haha. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Ook <[email protected]> > >>> > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > >> It can help a bit, but it's not enough for serious RSA cracking > >>> > > >> :). > >>> I > >>> > > can > >>> > > >> crack a 32 bit code in seconds, a 48 bit code in about a year. > So > >>> with > >>> > > >> some > >>> > > >> decent paralellism, I could crack a 48 bit code in a half a day, > >>> > > >> and > >>> a > >>> > > 64 > >>> > > >> bit code in about a hundred years. Forget about 128 bit codes, > >>> > > >> you > >>> > need > >>> > > >> almost infinite parallelism to crack those :( > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > >> From: "Matthew Gottlieb" <[email protected]> > >>> > > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >>> > > >> <[email protected]> > >>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:06 PM > >>> > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Any benefits with a graphics card? > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> That would explain why it does WPA cracking so well. > >>> > > >> Brute Force. > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Ook <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >> > Um...my gf8400 has 16 stream processors in it. And it cost ten > >>> > bucks. > >>> > > >> > But > >>> > > >> > the latency involved with offloading processing to it isn't > >>> > > >> > worth > >>> > it. > >>> > > >> > You > >>> > > >> > don't want to offload anything to the gpu unless you have a > >>> hundred > >>> > or > >>> > > >> > more > >>> > > >> > concurrent operations that you need to run. You don't do it > for > >>> fast > >>> > > >> math, > >>> > > >> > you do it because you need massive parallelism. > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > >> > From: "Matthew Gottlieb" <[email protected]> > >>> > > >> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >>> > > >> > <[email protected]> > >>> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:29 AM > >>> > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any benefits with a graphics card? > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> >>I agree. Lets get multi-core support rolling before we even > >>> > > >> >>think > >>> > > >> >> about GPU support. After all, who the hell has a GPU in their > >>> > server? > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> Unless you're one of the "cool kids" who have 4 280s in SLI > on > >>> > their > >>> > > >> >> server... > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:48 AM, 1nsane <1nsane.pw@ > gmail.com> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > >> >>> Valve is so good at supporting multiple cores and all of the > >>> other > >>> > > >> >>> new > >>> > > >> >>> CPU > >>> > > >> >>> enhancements... I'm sure they will start supporting nvidia's > >>> > > >> proprietary > >>> > > >> >>> architecture in no time! > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> OH WAIT > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Yaakov Smith < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > > > >>> > > >> >>> wrote: > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>>> Look at CUDA benchmarks.( > >>> > > >> >>>> http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3374)< > >>> > > >> >>>> http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3374> > >>> > > >> >>>> > >>> > > >> >>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Jake E > >>> > > >> >>>> <[email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > >> >>>> > >>> > > >> >>>> > But just how fast is that... > >>> > > >> >>>> > > >>> > > >> >>>> > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Yaakov Smith < > >>> > > [email protected]> > >>> > > >> >>>> wrote: > >>> > > >> >>>> > > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Thought so. Thanks. > >>> > > >> >>>> > > > >>> > > >> >>>> > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > >> >>>> > > From: [email protected] > >>> > > >> >>>> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Of > >>> > Alex > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 4:07 PM > >>> > > >> >>>> > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any benefits with a graphics card? > >>> > > >> >>>> > > > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Just uses the cpu/ram/hdd :) > >>> > > >> >>>> > > > >>> > > >> >>>> > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > >> >>>> > > From: [email protected] > >>> > > >> >>>> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Of > >>> > > Yaakov > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Smith > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 3:37 PM > >>> > > >> >>>> > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Subject: [hlds] Any benefits with a graphics card? > >>> > > >> >>>> > > > >>> > > >> >>>> > > Does SrcDS make any use of a graphics card, or does it > >>> > > >> >>>> > > just > >>> > use > >>> > > >> the > >>> > > >> >>>> > > processor? 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