Steambans works ok. We use it, and have caught about 10 people probably. The trouble is that there is no easy way of submitting bans since a demo video has to be taken of the offender to prove that they are, in fact cheating. But it's not a bad resource to use if you want to avoid allowing already-known offenders on your servers.
-Matt On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Danny Heinrichs <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry to butt in, but this thread is proving to be invaluable, thanks so > much! > > Do any of you use steambans, if so, how effective is it at eliminating > cheaters with the aforementioned private bots? > > Danny > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Lol one of the screenshots is from my server. Tempted to go thru the logs > > and find em. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MjrNuT > > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:34 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters > > > > *bows* to Mr. Meyer and AnAkin -- > > > > Thanks for information. Truthfully, I could maybe speak to 10% of the > TF2 > > Hack info thread. gaw! Fortunately, our community is small and > therefore > > seems like we just don't that much traffic in that fashion, (knocks on > the > > PC wood). I would like to be better at helping to ensure with our > > community > > that things can be caught with confidence, or some reasonable confidence. > > > > We run the server sv_pure 1. At one time I did edit the whitelist to > only > > allow Steam content. Someone here posted a while back what that was and > > forgive me in forgetting your contribution. However, it seems the TF2 > Hack > > info thread and the addition of AnAkin certainly doesn't prevent hacks. > > > > May I contact either of your outside of list for further knowledge and > > assistance? Basically, I'm interested in what you might deem as basic > > fundamental things that could be implemented. We keep sv_pure 1 to allow > > sprays as the only reason. > > > > Thanks so much for the insight and if it's not a problem, would love to > > cite > > your TF2 Hack thread for our use. > > > > > > [FLASH] MjrNuT > > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality > > > > www.flamesandash.com > > > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:35:30 -0600 > > From: Haven Meyer <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > The VAC system has a lot a loopholes in it. Players such as 'Helios' and > > the > > AA crew have been using the same basic (C++) framework for years and > still > > certain loopholes haven't been filled. Then again, the ones that do get > > filled get bypassed in a matter of hours. Aside from that, you've got > your > > mat hacks which with the current system, will never be sniffed by the > VAC. > > One thing to note though- if you see a jump of hackers in your server, > then > > there was probably a released client that made it public. A few months > back > > we saw blatant aimbots / nospread (perfect compenstation), and 100% crit > > rate chance jump from one day or so, to 2 or 3 an hour. After some > > reasearch, it was the same day that [wont say the name of the hack- > > Initials > > are d.s.], was released. Someone on the gameFaqs forums posted a link, > and > > we were swamped. > > > > This hasn't been updated in a bit and some of the information could > really > > use an update, but it is a "hack info" post I made to help inform our > > members of what to look for. Not every single hack is one of those "Snap > to > > every single person reguardless of location or visibility" type. There > are > > plenty of ways to disguise a hack- and many ways to turn certain portions > > of > > them off at a moments notice. > > > > http://www.clanao.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=564 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:53:16 +0200 > > From: "AnAkIn ." <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > A lot of people pay for cheats, and those cheats are almost never > detected > > because they're private and have anti leaks methods etc, so nobody will > be > > able to find them in public. And now, a lot of cheats are made in ring 0, > > which made them impossible to be detected by VAC because it runs in ring > 3. > > There are even some public ones. This has been existing for years and is > > used by lot of people. I don't understand why VALVe still didn't make > > anything to detect them. > > > > Most other public cheats will get detected because they run in ring > 3...but > > people which really want to cheat will go take a private one, and there > are > > HUNDRED of sites with private cheats, or maybe even more than that. > > Seriously, even the leagues AC are better than VAC against those private > > cheats. I know that most leagues AC staff will register to those cheats > > sites and pay to have a chance to detect them, but obviously VALVe > doesn't > > do that, seeing some private cheats have been undetected for years. > > > > ATM, only the guys who want to test a cheat and type "tf2 cheat" or "cs > > cheat" in google really get VAC banned. The others ones know on which > site > > to go and be sure to never get banned. > > > > For example, in the most known european TF2 league, there have been a > total > > of ~30 cheaters banned, and most for aimbotting and like ~20-25 of them > > were > > banned in the past few months. In those 30, I've checked their VAC > status, > > and only 2 were VAC banned. Most of them were playing TF2 since months, > or > > even since its release. ATM they still aren't VAC banned. And of course > > there are probably a lot more than 30 in that league. > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
