A lot of people pay for cheats, and those cheats are almost never detected because they're private and have anti leaks methods etc, so nobody will be able to find them in public. And now, a lot of cheats are made in ring 0, which made them impossible to be detected by VAC because it runs in ring 3. There are even some public ones. This has been existing for years and is used by lot of people. I don't understand why VALVe still didn't make anything to detect them.
Most other public cheats will get detected because they run in ring 3...but people which really want to cheat will go take a private one, and there are HUNDRED of sites with private cheats, or maybe even more than that. Seriously, even the leagues AC are better than VAC against those private cheats. I know that most leagues AC staff will register to those cheats sites and pay to have a chance to detect them, but obviously VALVe doesn't do that, seeing some private cheats have been undetected for years. ATM, only the guys who want to test a cheat and type "tf2 cheat" or "cs cheat" in google really get VAC banned. The others ones know on which site to go and be sure to never get banned. For example, in the most known european TF2 league, there have been a total of ~30 cheaters banned, and most for aimbotting and like ~20-25 of them were banned in the past few months. In those 30, I've checked their VAC status, and only 2 were VAC banned. Most of them were playing TF2 since months, or even since its release. ATM they still aren't VAC banned. And of course there are probably a lot more than 30 in that league. 2009/5/13 Haven Meyer <[email protected]> > The VAC system has a lot a loopholes in it. Players such as 'Helios' and > the > AA crew have been using the same basic (C++) framework for years and still > certain loopholes haven't been filled. Then again, the ones that do get > filled get bypassed in a matter of hours. Aside from that, you've got your > mat hacks which with the current system, will never be sniffed by the VAC. > One thing to note though- if you see a jump of hackers in your server, then > there was probably a released client that made it public. A few months back > we saw blatant aimbots / nospread (perfect compenstation), and 100% crit > rate chance jump from one day or so, to 2 or 3 an hour. After some > reasearch, it was the same day that [wont say the name of the hack- > Initials > are d.s.], was released. Someone on the gameFaqs forums posted a link, and > we were swamped. > > This hasn't been updated in a bit and some of the information could really > use an update, but it is a "hack info" post I made to help inform our > members of what to look for. Not every single hack is one of those "Snap to > every single person reguardless of location or visibility" type. There are > plenty of ways to disguise a hack- and many ways to turn certain portions > of > them off at a moments notice. > > http://www.clanao.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=564 > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM, MjrNuT <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tony, > > > > Sorry for the late response. Thanks for the input. Note that the > person's > > account, after 3 months has not been VAC flagged. I know VAC works in > > mysterious ways and was hoping for concrete backup if the account was > > VACed. But....it just looked too snappy.... > > > > I wonder if the Sniper Update will conjure up a more aggressive use of > > aimbots...? > > > > [FLASH] MjrNuT > > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality > > > > www.flamesandash.com > > > > > > Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters > > > > Tony Paloma > > Thu, 07 May 2009 13:49:24 -0700 > > > > Third person makes it pretty hard to judge. > > > > The first video doesn't show very much. In the second video, the shot > > against the scout towards the end is very suspicious. The third video is > > hard to tell if anything is going on. It seems like he knows people are > up > > there when he shouldn't know but he probably just saw people walking > around > > up there earlier before the video started. In the fourth video, he snaps > to > > somebody up top about 20 seconds in. Or maybe he was just shooting > someone > > down where he was looking and then checking the roof real quick right > > after. > > > > It would be much better if the video was first person, but I'd say you > were > > justified in banning him. > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
