I suggest using Steambans for the huge database of known cheaters they have, and for your own personal banning needs use SourceBans.
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:54 -0500, CLAN RCR wrote: > Steambans works ok. We use it, and have caught about 10 people probably. The > trouble is that there is no easy way of submitting bans since a demo video > has to be taken of the offender to prove that they are, in fact cheating. > But it's not a bad resource to use if you want to avoid allowing > already-known offenders on your servers. > > -Matt > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Danny Heinrichs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sorry to butt in, but this thread is proving to be invaluable, thanks so > > much! > > > > Do any of you use steambans, if so, how effective is it at eliminating > > cheaters with the aforementioned private bots? > > > > Danny > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Lol one of the screenshots is from my server. Tempted to go thru the logs > > > and find em. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MjrNuT > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:34 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters > > > > > > *bows* to Mr. Meyer and AnAkin -- > > > > > > Thanks for information. Truthfully, I could maybe speak to 10% of the > > TF2 > > > Hack info thread. gaw! Fortunately, our community is small and > > therefore > > > seems like we just don't that much traffic in that fashion, (knocks on > > the > > > PC wood). I would like to be better at helping to ensure with our > > > community > > > that things can be caught with confidence, or some reasonable confidence. > > > > > > We run the server sv_pure 1. At one time I did edit the whitelist to > > only > > > allow Steam content. Someone here posted a while back what that was and > > > forgive me in forgetting your contribution. However, it seems the TF2 > > Hack > > > info thread and the addition of AnAkin certainly doesn't prevent hacks. > > > > > > May I contact either of your outside of list for further knowledge and > > > assistance? Basically, I'm interested in what you might deem as basic > > > fundamental things that could be implemented. We keep sv_pure 1 to allow > > > sprays as the only reason. > > > > > > Thanks so much for the insight and if it's not a problem, would love to > > > cite > > > your TF2 Hack thread for our use. > > > > > > > > > [FLASH] MjrNuT > > > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality > > > > > > www.flamesandash.com > > > > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:35:30 -0600 > > > From: Haven Meyer <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > <[email protected]> > > > Message-ID: > > > <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > The VAC system has a lot a loopholes in it. Players such as 'Helios' and > > > the > > > AA crew have been using the same basic (C++) framework for years and > > still > > > certain loopholes haven't been filled. Then again, the ones that do get > > > filled get bypassed in a matter of hours. Aside from that, you've got > > your > > > mat hacks which with the current system, will never be sniffed by the > > VAC. > > > One thing to note though- if you see a jump of hackers in your server, > > then > > > there was probably a released client that made it public. A few months > > back > > > we saw blatant aimbots / nospread (perfect compenstation), and 100% crit > > > rate chance jump from one day or so, to 2 or 3 an hour. After some > > > reasearch, it was the same day that [wont say the name of the hack- > > > Initials > > > are d.s.], was released. Someone on the gameFaqs forums posted a link, > > and > > > we were swamped. > > > > > > This hasn't been updated in a bit and some of the information could > > really > > > use an update, but it is a "hack info" post I made to help inform our > > > members of what to look for. Not every single hack is one of those "Snap > > to > > > every single person reguardless of location or visibility" type. There > > are > > > plenty of ways to disguise a hack- and many ways to turn certain portions > > > of > > > them off at a moments notice. > > > > > > http://www.clanao.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=564 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:53:16 +0200 > > > From: "AnAkIn ." <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > <[email protected]> > > > Message-ID: > > > <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > A lot of people pay for cheats, and those cheats are almost never > > detected > > > because they're private and have anti leaks methods etc, so nobody will > > be > > > able to find them in public. And now, a lot of cheats are made in ring 0, > > > which made them impossible to be detected by VAC because it runs in ring > > 3. > > > There are even some public ones. This has been existing for years and is > > > used by lot of people. I don't understand why VALVe still didn't make > > > anything to detect them. > > > > > > Most other public cheats will get detected because they run in ring > > 3...but > > > people which really want to cheat will go take a private one, and there > > are > > > HUNDRED of sites with private cheats, or maybe even more than that. > > > Seriously, even the leagues AC are better than VAC against those private > > > cheats. I know that most leagues AC staff will register to those cheats > > > sites and pay to have a chance to detect them, but obviously VALVe > > doesn't > > > do that, seeing some private cheats have been undetected for years. > > > > > > ATM, only the guys who want to test a cheat and type "tf2 cheat" or "cs > > > cheat" in google really get VAC banned. The others ones know on which > > site > > > to go and be sure to never get banned. > > > > > > For example, in the most known european TF2 league, there have been a > > total > > > of ~30 cheaters banned, and most for aimbotting and like ~20-25 of them > > > were > > > banned in the past few months. In those 30, I've checked their VAC > > status, > > > and only 2 were VAC banned. Most of them were playing TF2 since months, > > or > > > even since its release. ATM they still aren't VAC banned. And of course > > > there are probably a lot more than 30 in that league. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
