VAC is updated.. they just dont mention it anywhere. I dont think they
always include it in their game upddates, it downloads in the background. My
hypothesis...,

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Mike Stiehm <[email protected]> wrote:

> Whats your IP address?
>
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> Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters
>
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>
> I've never even visited their site before. They need to work on their AC...
>
>
> But back on topic, VAC is seriously outdated, I guess it's just not a
> priority for Valve. Their fanbase still trusts VAC, just try to start
> a discussion in the VAC forums and you will see. Ironicly it's also
> the easiest way to get banned from the forums and the mods usually
> locks everything up. I can't blame them, the avarage steam forumite
> havnt even figured out that insecure servers are insecure, they just
> think it means the warning is gone so that Valve can catch more
> cheaters. True story, just look at the VAC forums. Acutally don't,
> there is nothing there worth seeing.
>
> 8 months ago I uploaded videos of 5 cheaters. 1 of them was banned
> after about a month. 8 months later he's still the only one caught by
> VAC and most of them were blatent, only AJ2005 were not completely
> obvious since he "only" used a wallhack. I think wallhacks/esp is the
> most used cheat in TF2 and there's probably a lot more than you might
> think.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=OnlineCheaters&view=videos
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Haven Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The VAC system has a lot a loopholes in it. Players such as 'Helios' and
> the
> > AA crew have been using the same basic (C++) framework for years and
> still
> > certain loopholes haven't been filled. Then again, the ones that do get
> > filled get bypassed in a matter of hours. Aside from that, you've got
> your
> > mat hacks which with the current system, will never be sniffed by the
> VAC.
> > One thing to note though- if you see a jump of hackers in your server,
> then
> > there was probably a released client that made it public. A few months
> back
> > we saw blatant aimbots / nospread (perfect compenstation), and 100% crit
> > rate chance jump from one day or so, to 2 or 3 an hour. After some
> > reasearch, it was the same day that [wont say the name of the hack-
> Initials
> > are d.s.], was released. Someone on the gameFaqs forums posted a link,
> and
> > we were swamped.
> >
> > This hasn't been updated in a bit and some of the information could
> really
> > use an update, but it is a "hack info" post I made to help inform our
> > members of what to look for. Not every single hack is one of those "Snap
> to
> > every single person reguardless of location or visibility" type. There
> are
> > plenty of ways to disguise a hack- and many ways to turn certain portions
> of
> > them off at a moments notice.
> >
> > http://www.clanao.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=564
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM, MjrNuT <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Tony,
> >>
> >> Sorry for the late response.  Thanks for the input.  Note that the
> person's
> >> account, after 3 months has not been VAC flagged.  I know VAC works in
> >> mysterious ways and was hoping for concrete backup if the account was
> >> VACed.  But....it just looked too snappy....
> >>
> >> I wonder if the Sniper Update will conjure up a more aggressive use of
> >> aimbots...?
> >>
> >> [FLASH] MjrNuT
> >> Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality
> >>
> >> www.flamesandash.com
> >>
> >>
> >>  Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters
> >>
> >> Tony Paloma
> >> Thu, 07 May 2009 13:49:24 -0700
> >>
> >> Third person makes it pretty hard to judge.
> >>
> >> The first video doesn't show very much. In the second video, the shot
> >> against the scout towards the end is very suspicious. The third video is
> >> hard to tell if anything is going on. It seems like he knows people are
> up
> >> there when he shouldn't know but he probably just saw people walking
> around
> >> up there earlier before the video started. In the fourth video, he snaps
> to
> >> somebody up top about 20 seconds in. Or maybe he was just shooting
> someone
> >> down where he was looking and then checking the roof real quick right
> >> after.
> >>
> >> It would be much better if the video was first person, but I'd say you
> were
> >> justified in banning him.
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