Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and
even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I
assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting
achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper...
How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats,
although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000
people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may.
Current people in achievement_idle servers:
http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idle&type=map&public=&pg=1then
you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted
to game-monitor.com.

You have balls sir,
Kyle.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper <[email protected]>wrote:

> God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game
> they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the
> whole hat thing so seriously.
>
> The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their
> game.
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
> > We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found
> out
> > pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items
> > that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player.
> There
> > is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that
> > they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing
> the
> > game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made
> clear
> > to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which
> ever
> > hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at
> all
> > set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being
> able
> > to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be
> destroying
> > the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is
> no
> > longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy
> item
> > giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell
> me,
> > which one of you has managed to get
> > 8hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917>?
> > 9hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622>?
> > 19hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977>?
> > 21hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>?
> > 24hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296>?
> > 26hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>?
> > 27hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731>?
> > the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't
> bother
> > looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to
> you.
> >
> > I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me.
> > Kyle.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for
> > > themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage
> over us
> > > "normal" people even though valve can do whatever they want as well...
> THEY
> > > MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo....
> > >
> > > Mnkras
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your
> intentions.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM
> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to
> > > idling
> > > > once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped
> out
> > > > FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd.
> > > >
> > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532
> > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654
> > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890
> > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622
> > > >
> > > > I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for
> and
> > > not
> > > > needed,
> > > > Kyle.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed
> -
> > > the
> > > > > one's that just say "Special Attributes" are the purely aesthetic
> ones
> > > > that
> > > > > Robin was speaking of.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Alec Sanger
> > > > > P: 248.941.3813
> > > > > F: 313.286.8945
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some
> > > research
> > > > > > about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually
> > > doing.
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look!
> > > > > > Kyle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have
> them
> > > > > > > and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sanderson<
> [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the
> special
> > > > > VALVe
> > > > > > > guns
> > > > > > > > (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5%
> of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > community for running an external idler.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys
> come
> > > > up
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > next,
> > > > > > > > Kyle.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thanks for the update, robin!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thank you,
> > > > > > > >> Alec Sanger
> > > > > > > >> P: 248.941.3813
> > > > > > > >> F: 313.286.8945
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > >> > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > >> > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700
> > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special
> weapons
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Hi All.
> > > > > > > >> > Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and
> > > > lasted
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > day.
> > > > > > > >> It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain
> every
> > > > > > > positive
> > > > > > > >> attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the
> > > "Valve"
> > > > > > > weapons
> > > > > > > >> to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the
> dev
> > > > side,
> > > > > > > some of
> > > > > > > >> the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and
> gave
> > > > > themselves
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> broken items recently.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the
> > > > ability
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > >> folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the
> > > future.
> > > > > > > Shouldn't
> > > > > > > >> happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me
> an
> > > > email
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > >> [email protected] and let me know)
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Robin.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > > > > > > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of tgnwells
> > > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM
> > > > > > > >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special
> weapons
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So
> it
> > > was
> > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > >> > a TF2 dev, yeah.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their
> > > > special
> > > > > > > >> weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker
> last
> > > > > night. I
> > > > > > > >> guess the players started giving them shit so they left.
> Upon
> > > > > further
> > > > > > > >> inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe
> gun
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Valve Syringe Gun
> > > > > > > >> > > (equipped)
> > > > > > > >> > > +15% Damage Done
> > > > > > > >> > > +150% Clip Size
> > > > > > > >> > > +15% Firing Speed
> > > > > > > >> > > On Hit: +15 Health
> > > > > > > >> > > 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players
> > > > > > > >> > > +50 Max Health on Wearer
> > > > > > > >> > > On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance
> > > > > > > >> > > On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target
> > > > > > > >> > > Fire Retardant (1)
> > > > > > > >> > > Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85)
> > > > > > > >> > > Speed Boost When Active (1.15)
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve
> > > > employee
> > > > > > > coming
> > > > > > > >> in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean,
> > > shit,
> > > > I
> > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > >> as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > >> > > Alec Sanger
> > > > > > > >> > > P: 248.941.3813
> > > > > > > >> > > F: 313.286.8945
> > > > > > > >> > >
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