This thread is just cry river. -Mike
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Alec Sanger<[email protected]> wrote: > > I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give > absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, > gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. > > Thank you, > Alec Sanger > P: 248.941.3813 > F: 313.286.8945 > > > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >> >> Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and >> even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I >> assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting >> achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... >> How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, >> although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 >> people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. >> Current people in achievement_idle servers: >> http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idle&type=map&public=&pg=1then >> you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted >> to game-monitor.com. >> >> You have balls sir, >> Kyle. >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> > God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game >> > they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the >> > whole hat thing so seriously. >> > >> > The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their >> > game. >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: >> > > We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found >> > out >> > > pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items >> > > that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. >> > There >> > > is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that >> > > they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing >> > the >> > > game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made >> > clear >> > > to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which >> > ever >> > > hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at >> > all >> > > set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being >> > able >> > > to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be >> > destroying >> > > the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is >> > no >> > > longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy >> > item >> > > giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell >> > me, >> > > which one of you has managed to get >> > > 8hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917>? >> > > 9hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622>? >> > > 19hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977>? >> > > 21hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>? >> > > 24hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296>? >> > > 26hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>? >> > > 27hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731>? >> > > the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't >> > bother >> > > looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to >> > you. >> > > >> > > I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. >> > > Kyle. >> > > >> > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for >> > > > themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage >> > over us >> > > > "normal" people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... >> > THEY >> > > > MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo.... >> > > > >> > > > Mnkras >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma <[email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your >> > intentions. >> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: >> > > > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM >> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >> > > > > >> > > > > Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to >> > > > idling >> > > > > once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped >> > out >> > > > > FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. >> > > > > >> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 >> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 >> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 >> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 >> > > > > >> > > > > I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for >> > and >> > > > not >> > > > > needed, >> > > > > Kyle. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger <[email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed >> > - >> > > > the >> > > > > > one's that just say "Special Attributes" are the purely aesthetic >> > ones >> > > > > that >> > > > > > Robin was speaking of. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thank you, >> > > > > > Alec Sanger >> > > > > > P: 248.941.3813 >> > > > > > F: 313.286.8945 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > From: [email protected] >> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 >> > > > > > > To: [email protected] >> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some >> > > > research >> > > > > > > about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually >> > > > doing. >> > > > > > I'm >> > > > > > > sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! >> > > > > > > Kyle. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector < >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > > > >wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have >> > them >> > > > > > > > and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sanderson< >> > [email protected] >> > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the >> > special >> > > > > > VALVe >> > > > > > > > guns >> > > > > > > > > (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% >> > of >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > community for running an external idler. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys >> > come >> > > > > up >> > > > > > with >> > > > > > > > > next, >> > > > > > > > > Kyle. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger < >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> Thanks for the update, robin! >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> Thank you, >> > > > > > > > >> Alec Sanger >> > > > > > > > >> P: 248.941.3813 >> > > > > > > > >> F: 313.286.8945 >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > From: [email protected] >> > > > > > > > >> > To: [email protected] >> > > > > > > > >> > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 >> > > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special >> > weapons >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > Hi All. >> > > > > > > > >> > Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and >> > > > > lasted >> > > > > > a >> > > > > > > > day. >> > > > > > > > >> It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain >> > every >> > > > > > > > positive >> > > > > > > > >> attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the >> > > > "Valve" >> > > > > > > > weapons >> > > > > > > > >> to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the >> > dev >> > > > > side, >> > > > > > > > some of >> > > > > > > > >> the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and >> > gave >> > > > > > themselves >> > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > >> broken items recently. >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the >> > > > > ability >> > > > > > for >> > > > > > > > >> folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the >> > > > future. >> > > > > > > > Shouldn't >> > > > > > > > >> happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me >> > an >> > > > > email >> > > > > > at >> > > > > > > > >> [email protected] and let me know) >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > Robin. >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > > > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto: >> > > > > > > > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of tgnwells >> > > > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM >> > > > > > > > >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> > > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special >> > weapons >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So >> > it >> > > > was >> > > > > > > > probably >> > > > > > > > >> > a TF2 dev, yeah. >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > > Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their >> > > > > special >> > > > > > > > >> weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker >> > last >> > > > > > night. I >> > > > > > > > >> guess the players started giving them shit so they left. >> > Upon >> > > > > > further >> > > > > > > > >> inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe >> > gun >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Valve Syringe Gun >> > > > > > > > >> > > (equipped) >> > > > > > > > >> > > +15% Damage Done >> > > > > > > > >> > > +150% Clip Size >> > > > > > > > >> > > +15% Firing Speed >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Hit: +15 Health >> > > > > > > > >> > > 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players >> > > > > > > > >> > > +50 Max Health on Wearer >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target >> > > > > > > > >> > > Fire Retardant (1) >> > > > > > > > >> > > Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) >> > > > > > > > >> > > Speed Boost When Active (1.15) >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve >> > > > > employee >> > > > > > > > coming >> > > > > > > > >> in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, >> > > > shit, >> > > > > I >> > > > > > > > might >> > > > > > > > >> as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Thank you, >> > > > > > > > >> > > Alec Sanger >> > > > > > > > >> > > P: 248.941.3813 >> > > > > > > > >> > > F: 313.286.8945 > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on > Facebook. > http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
