We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out
pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items
that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There
is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that
they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the
game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear
to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever
hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all
set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able
to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying
the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no
longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item
giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me,
which one of you has managed to get
8hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917>?
9hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622>?
19hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977>?
21hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>?
24hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296>?
26hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>?
27hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731>?
the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother
looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you.

I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me.
Kyle.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow <[email protected]> wrote:

> We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for
> themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us
> "normal" people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY
> MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo....
>
> Mnkras
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
> >
> > Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to
> idling
> > once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out
> > FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd.
> >
> > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532
> > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654
> > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890
> > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622
> >
> > I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and
> not
> > needed,
> > Kyle.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed -
> the
> > > one's that just say "Special Attributes" are the purely aesthetic ones
> > that
> > > Robin was speaking of.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Alec Sanger
> > > P: 248.941.3813
> > > F: 313.286.8945
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
> > > >
> > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530
> > > >
> > > > Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some
> research
> > > > about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually
> doing.
> > > I'm
> > > > sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look!
> > > > Kyle.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector <
> [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them
> > > > > and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sanderson<[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special
> > > VALVe
> > > > > guns
> > > > > > (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of
> > the
> > > > > > community for running an external idler.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come
> > up
> > > with
> > > > > > next,
> > > > > > Kyle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks for the update, robin!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thank you,
> > > > > >> Alec Sanger
> > > > > >> P: 248.941.3813
> > > > > >> F: 313.286.8945
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > From: [email protected]
> > > > > >> > To: [email protected]
> > > > > >> > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Hi All.
> > > > > >> > Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and
> > lasted
> > > a
> > > > > day.
> > > > > >> It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every
> > > > > positive
> > > > > >> attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the
> "Valve"
> > > > > weapons
> > > > > >> to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev
> > side,
> > > > > some of
> > > > > >> the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave
> > > themselves
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> broken items recently.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the
> > ability
> > > for
> > > > > >> folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the
> future.
> > > > > Shouldn't
> > > > > >> happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an
> > email
> > > at
> > > > > >> [email protected] and let me know)
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Robin.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > > > > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of tgnwells
> > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM
> > > > > >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it
> was
> > > > > probably
> > > > > >> > a TF2 dev, yeah.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their
> > special
> > > > > >> weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last
> > > night. I
> > > > > >> guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon
> > > further
> > > > > >> inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Valve Syringe Gun
> > > > > >> > > (equipped)
> > > > > >> > > +15% Damage Done
> > > > > >> > > +150% Clip Size
> > > > > >> > > +15% Firing Speed
> > > > > >> > > On Hit: +15 Health
> > > > > >> > > 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players
> > > > > >> > > +50 Max Health on Wearer
> > > > > >> > > On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance
> > > > > >> > > On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target
> > > > > >> > > Fire Retardant (1)
> > > > > >> > > Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85)
> > > > > >> > > Speed Boost When Active (1.15)
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve
> > employee
> > > > > coming
> > > > > >> in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean,
> shit,
> > I
> > > > > might
> > > > > >> as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Thank you,
> > > > > >> > > Alec Sanger
> > > > > >> > > P: 248.941.3813
> > > > > >> > > F: 313.286.8945
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
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