Less QQ, more PEW! PEW! On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Mike Zimmermann<[email protected]> wrote: > This thread is just cry river. > > -Mike > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Alec Sanger<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give >> absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, >> gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. >> >> Thank you, >> Alec Sanger >> P: 248.941.3813 >> F: 313.286.8945 >> >> >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >>> >>> Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and >>> even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I >>> assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting >>> achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... >>> How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, >>> although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 >>> people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. >>> Current people in achievement_idle servers: >>> http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idle&type=map&public=&pg=1then >>> you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted >>> to game-monitor.com. >>> >>> You have balls sir, >>> Kyle. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> > God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game >>> > they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the >>> > whole hat thing so seriously. >>> > >>> > The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their >>> > game. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: >>> > > We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found >>> > out >>> > > pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items >>> > > that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. >>> > There >>> > > is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that >>> > > they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing >>> > the >>> > > game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made >>> > clear >>> > > to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which >>> > ever >>> > > hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at >>> > all >>> > > set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being >>> > able >>> > > to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be >>> > destroying >>> > > the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this >>> > > is >>> > no >>> > > longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy >>> > item >>> > > giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell >>> > me, >>> > > which one of you has managed to get >>> > > 8hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917>? >>> > > 9hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622>? >>> > > 19hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977>? >>> > > 21hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>? >>> > > 24hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296>? >>> > > 26hats <http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654>? >>> > > 27hats<http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731>? >>> > > the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't >>> > bother >>> > > looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to >>> > you. >>> > > >>> > > I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. >>> > > Kyle. >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for >>> > > > themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage >>> > over us >>> > > > "normal" people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... >>> > THEY >>> > > > MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo.... >>> > > > >>> > > > Mnkras >>> > > > >>> > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma <[email protected]> >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your >>> > intentions. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: >>> > > > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson >>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM >>> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to >>> > > > idling >>> > > > > once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the >>> > > > > pimped >>> > out >>> > > > > FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 >>> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 >>> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 >>> > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 >>> > > > > >>> > > > > I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for >>> > and >>> > > > not >>> > > > > needed, >>> > > > > Kyle. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger <[email protected]> >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed >>> > - >>> > > > the >>> > > > > > one's that just say "Special Attributes" are the purely aesthetic >>> > ones >>> > > > > that >>> > > > > > Robin was speaking of. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Thank you, >>> > > > > > Alec Sanger >>> > > > > > P: 248.941.3813 >>> > > > > > F: 313.286.8945 >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > From: [email protected] >>> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 >>> > > > > > > To: [email protected] >>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some >>> > > > research >>> > > > > > > about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually >>> > > > doing. >>> > > > > > I'm >>> > > > > > > sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! >>> > > > > > > Kyle. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector < >>> > > > [email protected] >>> > > > > > >wrote: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have >>> > them >>> > > > > > > > and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sanderson< >>> > [email protected] >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > > > This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the >>> > special >>> > > > > > VALVe >>> > > > > > > > guns >>> > > > > > > > > (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist >>> > > > > > > > > 5% >>> > of >>> > > > > the >>> > > > > > > > > community for running an external idler. >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys >>> > come >>> > > > > up >>> > > > > > with >>> > > > > > > > > next, >>> > > > > > > > > Kyle. >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger < >>> > > > [email protected] >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks for the update, robin! >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> Thank you, >>> > > > > > > > >> Alec Sanger >>> > > > > > > > >> P: 248.941.3813 >>> > > > > > > > >> F: 313.286.8945 >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> > From: [email protected] >>> > > > > > > > >> > To: [email protected] >>> > > > > > > > >> > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 >>> > > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special >>> > weapons >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > Hi All. >>> > > > > > > > >> > Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, >>> > > > > > > > >> > and >>> > > > > lasted >>> > > > > > a >>> > > > > > > > day. >>> > > > > > > > >> It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain >>> > every >>> > > > > > > > positive >>> > > > > > > > >> attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the >>> > > > "Valve" >>> > > > > > > > weapons >>> > > > > > > > >> to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the >>> > dev >>> > > > > side, >>> > > > > > > > some of >>> > > > > > > > >> the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and >>> > gave >>> > > > > > themselves >>> > > > > > > > the >>> > > > > > > > >> broken items recently. >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > We're removing these from everyone today, and removing >>> > > > > > > > >> > the >>> > > > > ability >>> > > > > > for >>> > > > > > > > >> folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the >>> > > > future. >>> > > > > > > > Shouldn't >>> > > > > > > > >> happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me >>> > an >>> > > > > email >>> > > > > > at >>> > > > > > > > >> [email protected] and let me know) >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > Robin. >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > > > > > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto: >>> > > > > > > > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of tgnwells >>> > > > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM >>> > > > > > > > >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> > > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special >>> > weapons >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So >>> > it >>> > > > was >>> > > > > > > > probably >>> > > > > > > > >> > a TF2 dev, yeah. >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: >>> > > > > > > > >> > > Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of >>> > > > > > > > >> > > their >>> > > > > special >>> > > > > > > > >> weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker >>> > last >>> > > > > > night. I >>> > > > > > > > >> guess the players started giving them shit so they left. >>> > Upon >>> > > > > > further >>> > > > > > > > >> inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe >>> > gun >>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 >>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > Valve Syringe Gun >>> > > > > > > > >> > > (equipped) >>> > > > > > > > >> > > +15% Damage Done >>> > > > > > > > >> > > +150% Clip Size >>> > > > > > > > >> > > +15% Firing Speed >>> > > > > > > > >> > > On Hit: +15 Health >>> > > > > > > > >> > > 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players >>> > > > > > > > >> > > +50 Max Health on Wearer >>> > > > > > > > >> > > On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance >>> > > > > > > > >> > > On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target >>> > > > > > > > >> > > Fire Retardant (1) >>> > > > > > > > >> > > Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) >>> > > > > > > > >> > > Speed Boost When Active (1.15) >>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve >>> > > > > employee >>> > > > > > > > coming >>> > > > > > > > >> in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I >>> > > > > > > > >> mean, >>> > > > shit, >>> > > > > I >>> > > > > > > > might >>> > > > > > > > >> as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to >>> > > > > > > > >> happen. >>> > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > Thank you, >>> > > > > > > > >> > > Alec Sanger >>> > > > > > > > >> > > P: 248.941.3813 >>> > > > > > > > >> > > F: 313.286.8945 >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on >> Facebook. >> http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >
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