Calling us idiots is very mature. I guess you also approve all the exploits in the game too? I'm sure many players would like to keep their free wallhack with sourcemod.
Why should we have to install plugins to stop these serious holes in the dedicated servers that allow such tricks? Don't you think that it's Valves job in the end after all? I'd rather see all clients plugins blocked if no better solution can be reached. So far you haven't presented one either. There has to be a some kind of solution to running plugins on the client. Current way just allows free cheats with no fear of VAC ban. -ics 2.4.2010 7:52, Scott Highland kirjoitti: > No offense, but this whole list sucks at problem solving, every single > idea to deal with this issue suggested in this thread is just terrible, > absolutely terrible. > > You can't disable clientside plugins just because a few admins are too > lazy to want to install a plugin to block people using clientside > plugins. People have the right to install clientside addons just as > server administrators have the right to install whatever addons they > want on their server. It's easy for you morons to want to impose this on > everyone without seeing any consequences, Valve actually has to deal > with the complaints from their customers who use legitimate uses for > their plugins. Why don't you let professionals with their own companies > reputation on the line deal with this intense decision making process. > Suggesting valve should add a cvar to disable people with plugins is > dumb, there's already plugins out there that does exactly this, go > install it and quit complaining. Don't make Valve spent their time > babying the few admins too stupid to know how to set up a serious > dedicated server. > > This issue is basically the equivalent to the material hacks that are > possible to use anywhere on servers that have sv_pure set to 0 still. > It's not a big deal in the scope of things, and theres already ways of > dealing with it. Now quit acting like this is Valve's fault and go back > to blaming hackers and cheaters for your in-game shortcomings. > > Arg! wrote: > >> I doubt making a cvar would work as the plugins could simply override >> it as they do now. >> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Saul Rennison<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> If you aren't modifying game memory (i.e. hooking functions), then VAC won't >>> mind. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> - Saul. >>> >>> >>> On 31 March 2010 16:00, Keeper<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I don't know how VAC works, but if it's loaded via a client side plugin, I >>>> doubt VAC sees it as an "external" program altering the game's memory >>>> space. >>>> But not knowing how VAC works, there's no telling what they look for or how >>>> they are detecting it. >>>> >>>> Keeper >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Michael Krasnow [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:31 PM >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough. >>>> >>>> doesn't VAC check the memory? but +1 to the option for server admins, but >>>> somehow someone would find a way to change that or spoof it, idk, its >>>> weirds >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 4989 (20100331) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4993 (20100401) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
