Valve doesn't know the clients ping to the server. The client knows, but valve is already sending them the server list at that point.
All this is doing is changing the order that servers get sent to clients. The list will still have all of the servers, only servers that are deemed further are sent later. They already do this, except it's done via octets of IP's, which is even more inaccurate. This is change we can believe in. - Voogru. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alkaline Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Master Server Move Just list the servers and sort by ping imo, closest should ping the lowest. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DontWannaName!" <[email protected]> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Master Server Move > Perhaps there should be a way for server operators to change their > location > settings like download settings in Steam. Granted, people could abuse > that. > There are still regional settings, why not location. How do we know where > our servers will be listed, going on the list only approximates it. > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Steven Crothers > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> They are right next to each other in that case... >> >> It wouldn't make sense to announce /32's.... so your point is moot. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow >> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:47 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Master Server Move >> >> it doesn't matter its still better than 5000 miles! the current way is >> that >> the master servers think that if the client's ip address is 123.456.789.1 >> and the server's address is 123.456.789.2 that they are next to each >> other >> but in fact they could be on the other side of the world! this is still a >> lot better and probably the most accurate way we have. >> >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Mike Vail <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Msleeper brings up a good very good point. His is iisue si very real. >> > Fo >> r >> > instance, my dedicated box is in San Jose, Ca. but it shows on Google >> maps >> > as being in Dallas, Tx. If the list uses the Geo info, it could cripple >> us >> > and show our server several 1000's of miles away. We are near the top >> > of >> > the >> > list now on the west coast. Yikes! Ziod, have you taken this into >> > account >> > and are there work-arounds in place. I believe a lot of servers will be >> > affected by this. >> > >> > Regards >> > Lt. Maverick >> > BOOM! Gaming Community >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of msleeper >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 6:06 PM >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Master Server Move >> > >> > What about ISPs and IP providers whose GeoIP data are not even in the >> same >> > area? Most GeoIP lookups are based on whois data of the IPs in >> > question, >> so >> > if your IPs are owned by a company on the west coast, but the >> > datacenter >> > you >> > are in is in the east coast, then you're going to be getting some >> > pissed >> > off >> > west coasters with high ping. >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 20:49 -0400, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: >> > > GeoIP has been accurate enough. Even if it's off by 500 miles it's >> > > still far better than the octets of the IP which is what they do >> > > right >> > now. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: [email protected] >> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL >> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:36 PM >> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Master Server Move >> > > >> > > I hope all your IP addresses of both your clients and your servers >> > > have the correct geo IP data. >> > > >> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Kyle Sanderson <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > I think I love you Zoid, >> > > > >> > > > Kyle. >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:54 PM, DontWannaName! >> > > > <[email protected] >> > > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > That was broken anyways in TF2 I believe... >> > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:27 PM, 1nsane <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > So it will no longer sort by ip similarity? Thank the dragons! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Zoid Kirsch >> > > > > > <[email protected]> >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wednesday April 14th we will be moving the HL2Master >> > > > > > > servers to a >> > > > > new >> > > > > > > set of IP addresses. One of the major new features is the >> > > > > > > new >> > > > Masters >> > > > > > > should return dedicated servers ordered by their geographical >> > > > distance >> > > > > > from >> > > > > > > the player requesting the server list, making for lower >> > > > > > > latency and >> > > > > > better >> > > > > > > connections. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dedicated server operators will generally have to restart >> > > > > > > their >> > > > > dedicated >> > > > > > > servers after this move to ensure they will correctly pick up >> > > > > > > the >> > > new >> > > > > > > addresses of the these Masters. The server browser in the >> > > > > > > Steam >> > > > client >> > > > > > and >> > > > > > > in games such as Team Fortress 2 will automatically move to >> > > > > > > the new >> > > > > > Masters. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Server operators that manually set their master servers (we >> > > recommend >> > > > > > > against this practice however) please use " >> > > > hl2master.steampowered.com" >> > > > > > to >> > > > > > > refer to them instead of the IPs directly. This name returns >> > > > > > > all >> > > > Master >> > > > > > > addresses. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > We will update once the move is complete. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > /// Zoid. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > > archives, >> > > > > > > please visit: >> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > > > > archives, please visit: >> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > > > archives, please visit: >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > > archives, please visit: >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > archives, >> > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
